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NY TIMES: "Orthodox Church Pews Are Overflowing With Converts"

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Orthodox Church Pews Are Overflowing With Converts

“In the whole history of the Orthodox Church in America, this has never been seen,” a priest said about the surge of young men drawn to the demanding practice of Christianity.

By Ruth Graham
Ruth Graham covers religion, faith and values.
· Nov. 19, 2025
Something is changing in an otherwise quiet corner of Christianity in the United States, one that prides itself on how little it has changed over time. Priests are swapping stories about record attendance numbers. Older members are adjusting — or not — to the influx of new attendees. Parishes are strategizing about how to accommodate more prospective converts than existing clergy can reasonably handle on their own.

Across the country, the ancient tradition of Orthodox Christianity is attracting energetic new adherents, especially among conservative young men. They are drawn to what they describe as a more demanding, even difficult, practice of Christianity. Echoing some of the rhetoric of the so-called manosphere, new waves of young converts say Orthodoxy offers them hard truths and affirms their masculinity.

“In the whole history of the Orthodox Church in America, this has never been seen,” the Very Rev. Andrew Damick, an Antiochian Orthodox priest and author in Eastern Pennsylvania, said of the large groups of young people showing up at many parishes. “This is new ground for everyone.”

In the United States, Orthodox Christianity is by far the smallest and least-known of the three major branches of Christianity, representing about 1 percent of the population, compared with about 40 percent who are Protestant and 20 percent who are Catholic. Orthodox pews here have historically been occupied by immigrants from Ukraine, Greece and other countries with large Orthodox populations. Their American-born children often drift to other churches.
But a homegrown Orthodox Christianity is strikingly emergent. Many of the young Americans new to the pews have been introduced to Orthodoxy by hard-edge influencers on YouTube and other social media platforms. Critics call the enthusiastic young converts “Orthobros.”
One night this summer, the young adults of All Saints Orthodox Church in Raleigh, N.C., gathered at a bookshop and bar on the city’s north side. At the event’s peak, there were a mere handful of women present, and more than 40 men. The men noticed, and believed they knew why.
Orthodoxy “appeals to the masculine soul,” said Josh Elkins, a student at North Carolina State University who was chatting with other young men.
“The Orthodox Church is the only church that really coaches men hard, and says, ‘This is what you need to do,’” said Mr. Elkins, 20, who casually quoted a second-century martyr and rattled off terms like “monarchical episcopate” in conversation. He beamed as he talked about the weekly worship service known as the Divine Liturgy, an hourslong affair at which attendees typically stand the entire time, rather than sitting in the pews or kneeling.

The Divine Liturgy is just one aspect of Orthodox faith and practice that is unfamiliar to many Americans, including other Christians. Orthodox services include chanting, incense and genuflecting deeply before painted icons. Much of the liturgy takes place out of the sight of the congregation. The church also maintains a strict and complicated schedule of fasting.

“It’s so much harder than I thought it was going to be,” said Matthew Herman Hudson, 29, who converted in his early 20s and works in the bookstore in Raleigh. “But it speaks to me in a way that nothing else ever did.”

Mr. Hudson said that when he first converted, he had to explain to friends what Orthodoxy was. Now, customers at the bookstore often identify his necklace as an Orthodox cross, with its distinct three bars.

Generation Z is upending the expectations of many scholars and faith leaders, who watched the country steadily secularizing for decades, with each generation less religious than the last. Some recent surveys suggest that young adult men are defying that trend.
The Orthodox Church traces its ecclesiastical lineage to Jesus Christ and the early apostles. As Christianity expanded in its first millennium, a theological and political divide opened between the Eastern church and the Western, or Roman Catholic, church. A schism in the 11th century over issues including papal authority divided the two bodies definitively, with Eastern Orthodoxy flourishing in the Middle East, Eastern Europe and Russia.
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Orthodox Christians in the United States are younger and more male than many other Christian groups here. More than 60 percent of them are men, compared with 46 percent of evangelicals, according to the Pew Research Center. Orthodox Christians are also much younger, with 24 percent of adult adherents younger than 30, compared with 14 percent of evangelicals. The gaps are the same as those between Orthodox Christians and Catholics.

Some converts report approvingly that Orthodoxy has a more masculine feel than other traditions. Priests, who must be male and can marry, often have large beards and big families. Orthodoxy asks practitioners to make sacrifices like fasting, rather than offering them emotional contemporary music and therapeutic sermons, which critics describe as the typical evangelical megachurch experience.
“There’s no war for us to die in — well, there are wars for us to die in, just not ones that are honorable,” Laric Copes Jr., 28, who attends All Saints, said. For former Protestants like himself, Orthodoxy serves as “a kind of frontier of exploration,” he said.
“Young men need purpose, whatever that is,” said Jerod Stine, 26. “Young men are struggling to find jobs, they’re struggling to get into schools, and they’re really being told by society, ‘We don’t really need you.’”

Mr. Stine and Mr. Copes used to attend the same evangelical megachurch, but lost track of each other when the church collapsed in scandal. They reconnected for the first time in years at the Orthodox gathering at the bookstore.

The new energy in many Orthodox parishes tracks with broader trends among young men embracing harder-edge and more intense versions of several Christian traditions. In the Catholic church, a significant minority of young people prefer the pre-Vatican II Traditional Latin Mass, and attend parishes where women wear veils to mass.
These remain relatively small religious subcultures, but they are part of a shift that enthusiastic observers are calling a revival. Pew Research found this year that after years of decline, the Christian population in the United States has been stable for several years, a change fueled in part by young adults.

Some argue that the common denominator in churches attracting young people is not their style of worship but their treatment of the supernatural. Father Damick, the priest in Pennsylvania, pointed out that charismatic Christianity, whose theology includes an openness to faith healing and “spiritual warfare,” has also resisted trends of religious decline.

“You’re much more likely to see growth in churches that are not just conservative morally, but that take the unseen world seriously,” said Father Damick, who is also chief content officer of Ancient Faith Ministries, a pan-Orthodox publisher and media group.

Many converts say they appreciate the notion that Orthodox theology and practices have remained the same since the birth of Christianity.
As a joke recounted fondly in Orthodox circles puts it: “How many Orthodox does it take to change a lightbulb?” The answer: “Change? What’s that?”
“The Orthodox Church stands as the hope of those who wish to be normal, to be healthy, true and beautiful,” said the Rev. David Winn, the priest at All Saints.
Father Winn, 38, converted in the early 2010s. He has a seemingly endless energy for meeting with people curious about the church. His wife, Destinie, runs a popular Orthodox parenting account on Instagram when she is not home-schooling their four — soon to be five — children, or hosting groups from the church on their big back porch overlooking a patch of woods in nearby Cary.

Father Winn arrived at All Saints in 2020, the year that many observers say was pivotal for the growth of Orthodox Christianity in the United States. Orthodox churches were significantly more likely than others to ignore the coronavirus pandemic and continue to hold in-person services.

By 2023, in-person attendance at worship services had bounced back completely at the average Orthodox parish, while at other religious congregations it lagged behind, according to research published last year.

Some Orthodox parishes now have their own schools, long a rarity in a tradition with such small numbers. The pan-Orthodox Saint Constantine School has more than 500 students at its flagship school in Houston, which opened in 2015. The network opened a new campus in Pittsburgh last year, and another in Dallas this fall.

In North Carolina, All Saints is exploring the possibility of opening a school, as well as adding a second priest and a new location. This fall, the parish had a record 165 catechumens, people in the typically yearlong process of formally joining the Orthodox Church.
The online influencers that many young men credit with introducing them to Orthodoxy speak directly about politics and culture in a way that parish priests more often avoid. They tend to share an unbending social conservatism, with a particular interest in the “traditional family” and what they describe as the threats of feminism, homosexuality and transgender identities. They are also generally opposed to the state of Israel.
The Rev. Josiah Trenham, one of the most well-known American priests, appeared on Tucker Carlson’s show shortly after the assassination of the right-wing activist Charlie Kirk to discuss Christian mourning traditions. In a more recent video reflection on the prominent white nationalist Nick Fuentes’s appearance on Mr. Carlson’s show, Father Trenham claimed he didn’t know much about Mr. Fuentes and went on to praise the men’s conversation about the scourge of pornography.

Father Trenham’s congregation in Riverside, Calif., has more than 1,000 active parishioners, and 241 in the process of converting. “Five years ago I had 75, which I thought was a lot,” he said in an interview this fall. “The trajectory is increasing.”

Certain corners of the Orthodox internet are not just conservative or traditionalist, but openly racist and antisemitic, with several far-right figures converting in recent years. In the South, there is a strain of neoconfederate Orthodoxy that marries white supremacy and Orthodox practice. Matthew Heimbach, who organized the notorious Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017, had been excommunicated from the Antiochian Orthodox church but joined another branch.
The Orthodox Christian writer Rod Dreher warned recently that “antisemitism is spreading like a virus among religious conservatives of the Zoomer generation,” including among the Orthodox.

In interviews, parish priests said they see it as part of their jobs to acculturate “Orthobros” with extreme views to parish life, which they insisted was far removed from the violent rhetoric online.

But critics say that top church leaders rarely condemn even the most noxious rhetoric from high-profile Orthodox Christians.

“From an institutional perspective, I get it, you’re excited about growth,” said Sarah Riccardi-Swartz, an assistant professor of religion and anthropology at Northeastern University who has written about Americans who convert to Russian Orthodoxy. “But when that growth comes with violent political tendencies, that is not good and it has to be checked.”

At All Saints, many young converts said they had become less invested in online Orthodoxy the more they attended actual church. Austin Nolan, an accounting student, said his priest at his previous parish in Asheville, N.C., had warned him, “Don’t be an Orthobro.”

Mr. Nolan, 21, and his fiancée, Nadia Fuentes, 19, are now both catechumens at All Saints. After a packed Sunday service in August, they filed outside for an informal coffee hour.

Mr. Nolan was raised as a Baptist and Ms. Fuentes as a Methodist, the two Protestant traditions that have dominated the religious landscape in the American South for generations.

But the couple agreed that too many mainstream Protestant churches offered only shallow theology and “far-left” ideology. Ms. Fuentes’s former church had a female pastor, which she said she didn’t approve of, and she said she once saw a transgender woman, whom she described as a man, in the women’s bathroom there during a Christmas service.
“There’s just more validity in a church that can trace its lineage all the way back to the apostles,” Mr. Nolan said.

The couple said they were looking forward to raising an Orthodox family, one oriented around duty, truth and “objective beauty standards,” Mr. Nolan said. In their future home, they are planning a prayer area facing east.
Ruth Graham is a national reporter, based in Dallas, covering religion, faith and values for The Times.

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Thank you MUCH for posting this ! I would not have been able to read it otherwise with all the restrictions these days on accessing articles from major American and British publications.

What does everyone think of this ?

I can't stand to see Sarah Riccardi always quoted. At least her statement wasn't AS anti-Russian Orthodox as usual - perhaps so, anyway.

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I thought it was a good comparison to what I watched from Sbdc. Nektarios interview with a layperson's experience coming from world orthodox to an Orthodox Christian synod (GOC-K). From his observations/experiences, I can relate to very many especially regarding how often ROCOR-MP seems more focused, at least on the parish level, on becoming this reactionary movement toward right politics. This article seems to further confirm, at least from the perspective of this journalist, that politics can take a higher tier over theology. This person in the interview with Sbdc, makes a good point that politics are fleeting and won't matter in a decade possibly but the life of the Church, in her theology and ecclesiology, should take precedence over current events, especially when dealing with heretical bishops. I'm not saying politics are meaningless but the hyperfocus of many world orthodox puts you in danger of becoming another reactionary.

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Hmmmm.

I haven't finished the video, but am wondering where is this St Philaret's parish of the GOC-K, somewhere in Florida apparently ?
Is that the parish that is building a new church building as mentioned ?
It didn't come across clearly to me.

In general, it was hard to follow the speech patterns of both interviewer and interviewee.

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Feast Day of Metropolitan St Philaret of Moscow

Related to this interview between Subdeacon Nektarios Harrison and this Evan Stern, I want to correct a couple of things

I was reading the article by Subdeacon Nektarios discussing the controversy about Rocor-MP.

He wrote :


"In 2008 a book was published on this exact subject, written by a former KGB officer who defected, became a citizen of the United States, and produced a detailed exposé of the FSB and SVR infiltration of the Russian Church Abroad. He documented how numerous ROCOR clergy in our Nation’s Capital assisted these operations."

In the interview above, Subdeacon Nektarios states the SAME approximate sentence about Konstantin Preobrazhensky.

Apparently, Sub. Nektarios is soon launching a book about Konstantin's revelations of KGB activities.

But I don't care for ANY playing around with truth - we are supposed to be TRUE Orthodox here !

NOT stretching facts to sound more dramatic !

Konstantin Preobrazhensky did NOT defect to the US. That term would describe someone who was a member of a foreign intelligence agency or other venue at the time they skipped out to a Western country, perhaps on a tour abroad.

Konstantin had ALREADY BEEN kicked out by the FSB for AT LEAST A FEW YEARS - maybe up to 10 years - or longer - before he fled to the US.

Why ? He was a Japan expert, as I recall, but was easily unmasked by Japanese intelligence soon after his arrival at an undercover post in Japan.

I'll verify this part, as I don't have the info at my fingertips. I don't want even a tiny inaccuracy to appear in any statement of mine !

So Konstantin Preobrazhensky had LONG been in bad favor with the FSB by the time he arrived here.

He had some incidents he felt showed that Putin himself was after Konstantin [true or not, I can't say, that just his perception] but scared him enough to leave his apartment in Moscow and head to friendly American shores.

Or so he imagined.

Here, he requested political asylum
But it was NOT EASILY granted. In short, he was not a shoo-in for asylum.
He had to fight his case for a really long time.

His writings were probably aimed at securing the political asylum status.

As far as I know, as a real defector would have been. He associated for awhile with a group of former CIA and American intelligence writers, perhaps to gain enough reputation to justify being granted the status of political asylum

But that group kicked him out after awhile, saying he was 'too emotional' and probably as a result, UNRELIABLE.

He searched for where to go in the US, even considering as far away as California. He waited to find out whether there was Section 8 [low income] housing available there.

But the California lists were way too long, so he moved to Boston, where he stayed at the Rocor-Agafangel parish for around 2 years [or so].

Konstantin was ordained by Met Agafangel as a subdeacon. But as far as I know, did not participate in Church services anywhere. Maybe once. But that was it.

I would NOT call him a serious Orthodox person at all. Just in theory AT THE BEST.

Everything he did was to either :

gain asylum in America
find a FREE place to live

I WOULD call him 100% an opportunist - though I really hate to say that.

I don't think Subdeacon Nektarios SHOULD TAKE Konstantin TOO seriously. Konstantin exaggerates quite a bit.
That's just my opinion, but I do have good reason to state all these points.

The Boston parish folded sometime around when he found a better living situation or else was forced to do so by the impending closure.

That part I won't talk about so as not to embarrass him, but it didn't reflect well on his character.

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The second part of Subdeacon Nektarios' statement is also exaggerated.

It was obviously Fr Viktor Potapov who was the main clergyman in the Washington DC parish who tried to corral everyone into the MP union.

Even his Matushka was said by Konstantin to be against the union, based upon a parish council meeting he attended. This assertion needs to be verified, though.

For, Konstantin was NOT a regular parishioner but appeared for a meeting or two probably to glean information about how the union was faring.
He lived in the Washington area but not nearby the St John the Baptist Cathedral.

I don't remember hearing about any other clergy there who were pushing for the union.

Just Fr Viktor Potapov, former VOA-Russian programmer for many years.

Seemingly anti-Communist due to that job, he still went along with the union, it was rumored, after a trip or two - or more - to the Soviet Union.

Facts should not be overplayed : it's bad for one's reputation as a writer.

WHO will believe someone who plays even a little fast and loose with real truth ??!

A kindly-meant reminder. Inaccuracies make Subdeacon Nektarios' entire interview above WAY LESS USEFUL.

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Checking the facts as I promised above, this is the wikipedia entry about Konstantin Preobrazhensky's early KGB career.

That is the ONLY source, by the way, for this information.

Bear in mind that the wikipedia entry must have been written by Konstantin.
There is no independent corroboration of Konstantin's spy life in English to my knowledge, not even from his family. Has a son and a daughter. The son lived in Japan for years and the daughter in Russia. His wife Tatiana reposed from 'c'.

Sure enough, assuming the wikipedia info is correct, there WAS a large gap of time between his ---PROBABLE DISMISSAL --- from the KGB [1991] and his flight to America [2003] :
12 years

Off the cuff, it doesn't sound like Putin was REALLY "after him".

I have a feeling in retrospect that these purported incidents were a ploy to gain his U.S. asylum. I'll write more about this topic later.
As for The Moscow Times, this requires further investigation, as it was a liberal publication. BUT based in Europe somewhere. In short, backed probably by a NATO country.
Hardly impartial therefore on the topic of the Russian Federation !


"Konstantin Georgiyevich Preobrazhenskiy (Russian: Константин Георгиевич Преображенский; born 1953 in Moscow) is a former KGB lieutenant colonel, an intelligence expert and the author of several books and numerous articles about Russian secret police organizations.

Preobrazhenskiy is known for his publications about KGB operations in Japan, recruitment of Russian emigrants by Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, and infiltration of the Russian Orthodox Church by the KGB/Federal Security Service (FSB).

KGB career

Preobrazhenskiy graduated from the Institute of Asian and African countries of the Moscow State University in 1976 and started working in the Foreign Intelligence department of the KGB. He was an advisor on China, Japan and Korea to Leonid Zaitsev, the Head of the Scientific and Technical Intelligence (Directorate “T”), in the First Chief Directorate.

In 1980–85, Preobrazhenskiy worked under cover as a TASS correspondent at the KGB station in Tokyo. He recruited Chinese scholars for the Soviet Scientific and Technical Intelligence.

In July 1985, the Japanese police arrested him at a meeting with his Chinese agent, and he was transferred back to Moscow. He described these events in book “The Spy Who Loved Japan” published in 1994.

Writer and journalist

In 1991, Preobrazhenskiy left the KGB and started authoring books and articles about Russian state security services and on various political subjects. In 1993–2002, he worked as a columnist for the Moscow Times newspaper.

He fled to the United States in January 2003, after several episodes of harassment by Russian state security services. He was granted political asylum in March 2006"

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