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What these other juristictions do is of no interest to me; nor should they be. Or should I spend my time obsessed with what the....

It should be of great interest to you, since the Antiochians are in communion with the Monophysites, you are therefore in communion with those outside the church - therefore, the ROCOR is outside the church.

Its that simple.

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scwaterfowl wrote:

And about that last paragraph...
If you're not sure what that means, research the history.

Falsified history that the accused was acquitted completely for since the "witnesses" admitted being paid off by MP thugs!!

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Ioannis,
Not true.
First, don't confuse concelebration with communion.
Second, are you telling me you know the heart of everyone you're "in communion" with?? This argument has to be one of the stupidest I've been hearing; when it happens in my parish, I'll let you know.

Deacon Nikolai,
Exactly.
Were you there?? How do you know; one way or the other??

How many confessions of Russian Orthodox have you heard over the last two decades??

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I'm sorry, I just have to go back to that moronic comment by Ioannis.

Are you trying to tell me that just because some church communes or even concelebrates with a heretic that I am one just because my parish/synod/patriarchate happens to be in communion with the former???? Anyone who believes that can not possibly be capable of feeding themselves.

Again; call me and my church heretic. There; we're in the same category as cultists. Not that I care what your opinion is, but why do you care?? Ya'll refuse to answer the question. If all these churches are heretical, WHAT INTEREST IS IT OF YOUR'S??

I'm sure most of the people on this forum are intelligent and zealous (in a good way), but it seems to me that all that energy could be spent in a more productive manner.

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From Prizyv

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scwaterfowl wrote:

Were you there?? How do you know; one way or the other??

DECLARATION OF METROPOLITAN VALENTIN BEING EXONERATED OF ALL CHARGES AGAINST HIM.

On the 26th of February, 2004, Judge M. A. Zaglazeev and Secretary O. A. Savchenkova presiding, there was a court hearing in the civil action case of A. P. Rusanstsov (Metropolitan Valentine), plaintiff, vs. VROO "Prizyv," and A.V. Rasshchupkin, defendants, defending the plaintiff’s honor, dignity, and business reputation. The court mandated the newspaper "Prizyv" to publish within thirty days, in the same place in the newspaper, and with the same type of script, a retraction of its article as not being in accordance with reality and damaging to the honor, dignity, and business reputation of the plaintiff — CASE CLOSED.

On the 3rd of March, 2004, Judge I. N. Mysyagina, with the participation of the District Attorney T. V. Lezova, Att. S. K. Mochonny, and Secretary J. N. Suslova, handed down the following ruling: "To revoke the suspended sentence upon A. P. Rusantsov (Metropolitan Valentine), which he had received from the Suzdal Regional Court on the 23rd of August, 2002, in accordance with article No. 132, part 2 (D) of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and with article No. 133 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and to completely exonerate A.P. Rusantsov.

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Deacon Nikolai,
Thanks, but that's not what I meant in that question.

Only him, his accuser, and God know what really happened.

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Post by 尼古拉前执事 »

Well since his accuser publicly recanted, asking forgiveness, and he and his family are members of our Church, his father only being converted to the ROAC after seeing how the MP used his son, it seems clear enough to me.

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