Joe,
Yeah you didn't bring up that it was oc.net but most people that read this forum read oc.net and vice versa, and oc.net is the only other really big Orthodox forum on the net besides what appears on email lists (which are not really forums) so everyone probably could guess who you were talking about.
anastasios
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I thought there were several others and wasn't aware there was such a high percentage of crossreaders/posters. sorry.
Joe Zollars
anastasios wrote:That Alexy II was a KGB agent (what that means could be many different things, as many people joined the KGB in order to take suspicions away from themselves) does not make him the "KGB masquerading as Patriarch of Moscow." Obviously he is the Patriarch of Moscow.
Anastasios is right, since the MP is a soviet creation to replace the Russian Orthodox Church, a KGB agent being the Patriarch makes perfect sense, since the KGB/Soviet government chose the Patriarchs from Sergius on.
anastasios wrote:Sergianism, on the other hand, is not a fact. It is one interpretation of what happened when the communists infiltrated the MP.
I wonder where Anastasios has learned this MP propaganda? Sergianism is a fact. Sergius allowed the atheists control the church and for that became Patriarch. But maybe that never happened in the rewriting of history that considers the Catacomb Church, the true Church in Russia to be a myth, unneccesary or a bunch of lunatics. After Sergius' vile acts there were two parts of the Russian Orthodox Church, the ROCOR and the Catacomb Church. The Moscow Patriarchate is nothing but a heretical sham.
I hope and pray that this heretical body repents of its sins and asks to become part of the true Russian Orthodox Church that kept fast to the narrow path of truth in the Faith.
Methodius,
Pospielovsky considers both the Catacomb Churches and the Moscow Patriarchate in his account. I suggest you read it.
Didn't you also know that there were KGB agents in the Catacomb Church as well? They were not free from infiltration.
Those who think that KGB agents in the MP renders their mysteries invalid are Donatists, in my opinion.
The whole communist fiasco was a tragedy. Luckily communism is gone so we can move back towards the reunion of MP and ROCOR, which will be healthy for both.
anastasios
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Are you implying that communism still exists in Russia? In actuality, communism is gone-it has been replaced with an oligarchy.
On another note, I just wanted to say that I really, really hate the word “commie”. I was called that when I was younger (on numerous occasions) just because my family is Russian. 
I'm increasingly becoming of the opinion that if your views are not wanted somewhere after several tries, then persisting in said place is a waste of time. We shouldn't try to force our views on anyone - it doesn't accomplish much, and might even be counter-productive.
OTOH, I will say that while Joe's post was blunt, materially it was correct.
Were I Joe, I'd prefer to have the post deleted, rather than edited - the edit implies Joe actually recognizes Alexy II as the "Patriarch" of the Russian Orthodox Church, which I'm inclined to believe he does not. 
Anastasios,
Didn't you also know that there were KGB agents in the Catacomb Church as well? They were not free from infiltration.
Those who think that KGB agents in the MP renders their mysteries invalid are Donatists, in my opinion.
The problem with the comparison you are making (between the true Orthodox Church in Russia, the Catacomb Church and the MP), is that it is based on an incomplete thought. While perhaps it is true that BOTH had "communist plants", the difference is that for the MP, institionally and doctrinally ("doctrine" being "teaching" which is both explicit and implicit - in word and deed/discipline) supported the Soviet government, and repeatedly stated it's servility to it - which is a policy that began with Metropolitan Sergius, and continued onward - hence the deserved title of "Sergianism", a real, manifest way of thought and action which imbued the MP. The MP was not simply a Church held hostage by a hostile government - it was a cooperative servant of said aggression, even trying to compell those directly out of the Soviet's reach to said servility (such as the attempts of the MP to harass Russian Orthodox Christians abroad, or compell them into a servility like their own, even when such was not at all necessary.) The MP's acts throughout the years were not those of an institution simply resigned to being bullied in their homeland because they had no other option - were this the case, it's designs on Russian Churches abroad is inexplicable (rather, wouldn't they actually be delighted with cutting them loose, as St.Tikhon had desired?)
Seraphim
