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A thorough review of the information presented on the following threads reinforces how point by point another orientation has been addressed. I've made clear my positions on dialogue on multiple threads. It is clear that this has either been not understood or avoided/ignored. Either way, this conversation is over.
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The following threads chronicle my substantiation of my charges and provide ample data for anyone to read:

http://euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewto ... 43&start=0

http://euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewto ... 82&start=0

http://euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewto ... 37&start=0

All that is necessary is pursuing these threads to their conclusion. The ecumenical movement is utterly heretical and leads souls straight to hell.

Love is a holy state of the soul, disposing it to value knowledge of God above all created things. We cannot attain lasting possession of such love while we are attached to anything worldly. —St. Maximos The Confessor

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People have made unspecified charges against specific Orthodox Heirarchs without supporting evidence of wrongdoing on their part. They make charges against the Orthodox present based on what others say who are not Orthodox, which is obfuscation.

It is very akin to blaming Lot for the actions of those in Sodom. Lot should not have been there; but he is considered righteous as his faith is in God.

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...The following threads chronicle my substantiation of my charges and provide ample data for anyone to read:

http://euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewto ... 43&start=0

http://euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewto ... 82&start=0

http://euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewto ... 37&start=0

All that is necessary is pursuing these threads to their conclusion. The ecumenical movement is utterly heretical and leads souls straight to hell. ...

Love is a holy state of the soul, disposing it to value knowledge of God above all created things. We cannot attain lasting possession of such love while we are attached to anything worldly. —St. Maximos The Confessor

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The Archbishop's address to the wcc, emphasis added [comments added]:

The Triune God’s transformative interventions

  1. The formulation of our Assembly theme assumes the form of a prayerful petition, if you like, it is a mystical cry, which reveals a sense of profound weakness and intense expectation. It is a contemporary variation of the prayer placed on our lips by Christ Himself: "… your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as in heaven." It is based on the recognition that, for the transformation of the world, our human thoughts, ideas and abilities are insufficient. Yet, at the same time, it is founded on the conviction that the God, in whom we hope, is not indifferent to human history. God is immediately interested and is able, through His grace, wisdom and power, to intervene and transform the entire universe. God takes the initiative, taking action and assuming the decisive role in universal events. [ie. its God who adds to the Church daily]

The faith and experience of the Church with regard to the mystery of God are summed up in the phrase: "The Father through the Son in the Holy Spirit" creates, provides, and saves. God is incomprehensible and inaccessible in His essence. Nevertheless, His presence is perceived in the world through His grace and the manifestation of His glory. Such is the dynamic, creative and transforming energy of the Trinity that is beyond all essence. Grace is the unique gift, which contains all other gifts. It is revealed in all the divine energies. Eastern Christian thought clearly distinguishes between the created universe and the uncreated energies of God. The superessential God is not identified with any created understanding or idea, like the philosophical concept of essence. That which in the final analysis humankind is able to assume is the grace of God.

  1. The most surprising transformative intervention occurred in human history when the Word of God was incarnated and assumed human nature – not only human spirit but also matter and, thereby, all of creation, since humanity is its crown. "And the Word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen His glory, the glory as of a father’s only son, full of grace and truth" (John 1:14). All the stages of Christ’s life comprise expressions of divine grace as well as of divine glory. During His Transfiguration on Mt. Tabor, Jesus revealed the original beauty of humanity created "in the image" of God as well as the concluding splendid glory of humanity "in the likeness" of God.

The sacrifice on the Cross and the resurrection of Christ complete the salvation of the human race by divine grace. "But God, who is rich in mercy … raised us up with Him and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the immeasurable riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus" (Eph. 2:4,6-7). Amazed before this astonishing gift, St. Paul professes: "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God – not the result of works, so that no one may boast" (vv. 8-9). Since that time, what took place ontologically within human nature in the person of Jesus Christ continues with the ongoing presence and energy of the Holy Spirit.

The closing pages of the New Testament illumine the eschatological vision of the Church, describing a universal transformation, "a new heaven and a new earth" (Rev. 21:1). The One seated on a throne proclaims: "Behold, I make all things new." (Rev. 21:5)

As to what form the transformation of the world will ultimately assume in the future remains a secret of the God of surprises. After all, this is what happened in the past. If human creativity – this divine gift, which we have received – has reserved so many surprises for us, the grace of God holds incomparably more and entirely superb surprises.

The word "grace" was employed by the Seventy in the Greek translation of the Old Testament for the rendering of diverse Hebrew terms. In Greek, the original language of the New Testament, grace "denotes firstly the radiant attraction of beauty, secondly the inner radiance of goodness, and finally the gifts which bear witness to this generosity.1

As the energy of the Trinitarian God (Acts 13:43, 14:26; Rom. 5:15; 1 Cor. 1:4, 3:10, 15:10; 2 Cor. 6:1, 8:1, 9:14; Eph. 3:2, 7:7; etc), grace is referred to in the New Testament sometimes as "the grace of God", other times as "the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ," and at other times as "the grace of the Holy Spirit." In the conscience of the united Church, grace is the energy of the entire Holy Trinity. As St. Athanasius the Great emphasizes: "Grace is singular, deriving from the Father, proceeding through the Son and fulfilled in the Holy Spirit."2 . And elsewhere, he writes: "They have this grace with the participation of the Word, through the Spirit and from the Father."3

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We are coworkers in the transforming energy of divine grace.

In our petition "God, in your grace, transform the world," the immediate response that we receive is: But I want you to be with me! Your place is not to be spectators of divine interventions and actions, but coworkers. This is a direct consequence of my Incarnation, of the constitution of the Church, of my "mystical Body," where you have freely accepted to become members. All of us, then, who belong to Him have both the privilege and the obligation to share actively in the transformation of the world.

  1. Beginning with ourselves. The life in Christ, to which we have been called, is a continuously transformative journey. St. Paul advises: "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your minds, so that you may discern what is the will of God – what is good and acceptable and perfect." (Rom. 12:2) "Renewing the mind" is precisely what repentance is about. And it may come through contemplative silence, which leads to the awareness of our nothingness and worthlessness. It is the result of self-criticism regarding the degree of our estrangement from the ideal determined by His will.

What is demanded is a continual gaze upon and search for God. It is not a matter of change once-for-all but of an ongoing transformation by the grace of the Spirit. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, … and all of us … seeing the glory of the Lord as though reflected in a mirror, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another, for this comes from the Lord, the Spirit." (2 Cor. 2:17-1 We are speaking of a transformative process, from purification to purification, from repentance to repentance, from virtue to virtue, from knowledge to knowledge, from glory to glory. This is a dynamic movement of unceasing renewal in the grace of the Holy Spirit. As St. Gregory of Nyssa explains: A Christian "is ever changing for the better and transforming from glory to glory through daily growth, by always improving and always becoming deified and yet without ever reaching the end of perfection. For true perfection means that one never ceases to grow toward that which is better and never reduces perfection to any limit.4

The grace of God shapes the apostolic "being" – as St. Paul explains: "By the grace of God I am what I am" (1 Cor. 15:10). And this grace in turn becomes an inexhaustible source of action (Acts 14:26, 15:40). The disciples do not remain satisfied with their personal enjoyment of grace: "And His grace toward me has not been in vain." Grace becomes service, a creative struggle for healing, reconciliation, the spreading of the Gospel for the transformation of all. Yet, St. Paul again corrects himself: "Though it was not I, but the grace of God that is with me." (1 Cor. 15:11)

  1. The struggle for inner transformation, in accordance with the example of Christ, takes place in the Church. The faithful Christian struggles and is sanctified as a member of the Body of Christ. Consequently, personal renewal and transformation is reflected within the entire community of the Church. "Jesus Christ, who is the same, yesterday, today, and forever (Heb. 13:, is the head of the Church, which is His Body, sustained by the Holy Spirit, and in this sense the Church cannot sin. Therefore, we do not ask for the ‘transformation of the Church.However, if we are referring to ’the churches’, specifically in the sense of communities of believers in history, we know full well that believers sometimes fail to actualize the true being of the Church. It is we sinners, personally and in community, who require transformation".5

The transformative journey of our church communities cannot occur on the basis of criteria occasionally proposed by fashion and vogue, but through the guidance of "the Gospel of grace." We have in practice often ascertained the substitution of many of God’s commandments by the mentality of the world, by a demonic reversal of the evangelical principles. Instead of the primacy of service, we have craved the primacy of authority; instead of the power of love, the love of the power of this world; instead of respect for others, we have demanded their submission to our opinions and desires. The Church is obliged to remain at every time and in every place what its essence is: namely, the Body of Christ, "the fullness of Him who fills all in all" (Eph. 1:23), word, light, the witness of whom embraces all things with His love, transforming them. All other social and cultural actions are incidental; they are the historical expression and incarnation of love in specific circumstances and conditions.

  1. Obviously, however, we cannot become a closed community "of saved ones," isolated from events on the planet. Our responsibility extends to the universe, to the journey of the entire world.

a) Since our Assembly is taking place in Latin America, the issue of poverty assumes absolute priority for all of us who worship and follow Him, who was born and died stressing the dignity of the poor and their inalienable value before God, who came "to bring good news to the poor" (Luke 4:1 In the face of all the poor – the hungry, estranged, and refugees – we are obliged to discern the face of Jesus. Woe to us if, in the 21st century, we again relinquish the initiative for social justice to others, as we have done in past centuries, while we confine ourselves to our opulent rituals, to our usual alliance with the powerful. Woe to us if we permit other forces, with different religious ideas and ambitions, to assume leadership in the struggle to overcome poverty in our world. [Please give generously to the IOCC :) or other Orthodox Charities this Lent]

In our age, a globally interdependent society is taking shape, and our most fundamental problem is how we might become conscious as Christians of our obligation toward those who are deprived of the most basic goods, as well as our practical solidarity with these people within our cities and our nations, from country to country and from church to church. We can no longer claim ignorance or indifference before the millions of children that live in miserable conditions, before the one billion fellow human beings that are undernourished while another three billion survive on less than two dollars a day. [AMEN!]

Before the challenge of economic globalization, which is solely concerned with broadening the market, while leveling cultural and popular diversities, we are called as Christians to respond with enlightened initiatives for a society of understanding, healing, reconciliation and fraternization, based on respect for each human person and each people, promoting mutual understanding and solidarity throughout the planet. We are called to promote daring initiatives and just social struggles, commencing with our own immediate environment, the family, our parish and city, our diocese and region. We are called, moreover, to practice our immediate responsibility within our specific circumstances, keeping the entire world in mind as our broader horizon.

b) On our planet, peace continues to be injured on a daily basis. The peace proclaimed by the New Testament is multidimensional: it is personal and social, yet at the same time it is sanctifying, holistic, and eschatological. With God’s grace, we are obliged to struggle so that the visible and invisible conflicts may be transformed and peace may prevail in our immediate and wider environment. St. Basil the Great states: "Nothing is more characteristic of a Christian than peacemaking; for that, the Lord promised us the greatest reward"6.; that is to be called "sons of God".

Of course, peace cannot develop of itself. It is related to other significant values in life. Above all, it is related to justice. An unjust, unlawful world cannot expect peace. Genuine longing for peace on a global, local, or personal level, is expressed through struggle for justice. Nevertheless, today, peace and justice have yet another name: development. And all of us, who yearn and pray for the transformation of our world, have a duty to contribute to the development of poorer nations.

c) However, even in nations that appear secure and peaceful, every now and again one observes outbreaks of violence. As a rule, those who are more powerful are also more liable to violence. This is because they have the possibility to impose their self-interested plans in a variety of means, with authoritarian methods, through the violation of information, by electronic and human brainwashing, by use of threat and blackmailing of conscience. Yet violence is not only found where powers are great, nor only where the mass media turn our attention. It is also detected in smaller nations, cities, villages, communities – even religious ones – and indeed wherever people live. Aggression is concealed within every human heart. In beseeching, then, for the transformation of our world, let us make a firm decision to struggle, with the power of the Holy Spirit, to overcome violence wherever we possibly can: in our family and society, as well as in the political and international community.

d) Finally, the ecological destruction provoked by the irrational exploitation of the earth’s natural resources is creating serious concerns for the future of our planet. Therefore, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew points out "whenever we narrow religious life to our own concerns, we overlook the prophetic calling of the Church to implore God and to invoke the Divine Spirit for the renewal of the whole polluted cosmos. Indeed, the entire cosmos is the space within which transformation is enacted."7 All our efforts in this domain will be productive when they take place in the Holy Spirit, "from whom grace and life come to all creation"8 as we sing in the Orthodox Church. For "through the Holy Spirit spring the sources of grace, watering and reviving the entire creation."9 St. Gregory Palamas defines the duty and ethos of every faithful with regard to nature, when he states that the heart of a person illumined by the eternal uncreated light "embraces the whole of creation".

III

Inspired by the "Gospel of grace"

  1. The manner in which Christ came into the world never ceases to amaze. The Savior’s entire life and preaching revealed the mystical power of humility. Our Lord "emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, being born in human likeness. And being found in human form, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death – even death on a cross." (Phil. 2:7-

Naturally, the ways of modern society are completely contrary to the spirit of humility. What attracts the attention of most is normally what most impresses, whatever is related to glamour, money, and illusion. Even within church circles, in spite of much talk about humility and similar things, people’s ways of thinking and patterns of behavior often betray pride and arrogance. Yet humility in Christ reveals the secret of the spiritual radiance and the transforming power of the Church. The authentic witness of the Church is borne through the centuries by the sincere humility of those dedicated to God. "For great is the might of the Lord; but by the humble He is glorified." (Sirach 3:20) In fact, Holy Scripture insists: "The Lord opposes the proud, but to the humble He shows favor." (Prov. 3:34; James 4:6; 1 Peter 5:5) When, therefore, we pray: "God, in your grace, transform the world," let us not overlook for a moment that the magnet for God’s grace is humility. As a way of life, humility nourishes our thought and creativity.

  1. What is able, above and beyond all else, to transform everything in the world is the sacrificial offering of love. With the entrance of the divine Word into the historical march of humanity, God’s love was revealed in the most shattering manner: it was incarnated. This truth remains the root of Christian revelation, which nurtures every other Christian value and proposal. "For God is love. God’s love was revealed among us in this way: God sent His only Son into the world so that we might live through Him." (1 John 4:8-9) [In my experience, machines are not loving - nor is the blind application of law. Without justice and mercy, the law is nothing - be merciful, even to the Heterodox! And these statements are merciful and true that the Archbishop makes]

The fundamental mission, then, of the Church is to reveal and make manifest God’s love in the here and now, in each moment and every place where it is and acts. In this way, it contributes essentially to the transformation of the world. Otherwise, it resembles "a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal," even if it possesses the gifts of prophesy, knowledge, and faith; even if it understands all the mysteries; even if it is known for great and impressive actions (cf. 1 Cor. 13:1-3).

Each cell of the visible Body of Christ, every Christian, is called to incarnate with his or her entire being and work God’s love in the particular circumstances of their life. By denying ourselves and assuming the cross (cf. Matt. 16:24) in our daily life, by supporting those around us in their sorrow, their loneliness, and their need. Whoever is "in God" endeavors to love like God. God’s love takes daring initiatives, knows no boundaries, and embraces all things. The conviction that "God is love" comforts us and liberates us from multifaceted fear, from fear of the other, from fear of the different, or from fear of human developments that often appear threatening. Furthermore, God’s love comforts us and liberates us from fear of our failure and from fear of the abyss within our soul. "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear." (1 John 4:1

Many of those who deny or resist the name "God" indirectly accept His other name: Love. The fact that love constitutes the supreme value of life, the mystical force of the world, is becoming increasingly acceptable even by people of other religious persuasions through diverse experiences and ways of thinking. Love becomes the mystical passage which leads people – perhaps without their even knowing it – closer to the God of love. Ultimately, it comprises the secret to the transformation of the world.

  1. Finally, both our prayer and our participation in the transformative evolution of the world must take place within an atmosphere of joy and doxology. Joy is the distinctive fruit of the Holy Spirit (Gal. 5:12). It is the characteristic of those who belong to the kingdom of God (Rom. 14:17; 1 Thess. 1:6). The radiance of essential love calmly triumphs over sin, pain, and contempt. It was, from the outset, the definitive feature of the Christians. With the joy of selfless love, the joy of the perpetual presence of the Risen Christ in the Holy Spirit, the Church proceeds triumphantly amid the world. And it loses the world when it loses this joy. Christ offered us a "joy in fullness," (John 16:24) which no one can remove from us. The experience of this joy determines our daily life. St. Paul incites us: "Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice." (Phil. 4:4) And St. Peter also insists: "Believe in Him and rejoice with an indescribable and glorious joy." (1 Peter 1:

Our theological reflection and our prayer concerning the transformation of the world are developed more fully within the context of doxology. With the institution of the Eucharistic gathering, the Church chose from the very first moment a doxological stance to implore God’s grace and proclaim "the Gospel of grace" (Acts 20:24), Christ’s "Gospel of glory" (2 Cor. 4:4). Through doxology, in a harmonious synthesis with the beauty of liturgical worship, the Church powerfully expresses the acquisition of the divine grace and the appropriation of the divine glory. [Obviously, he is not speaking of Church in heterdox terms - the heterodox are not Liturgical]

This doxology of the Church is a foretaste and prelude of the eschatological hour, when the universe will be transformed within the absolute manifestation of God’s glory. Each creative effort and participation in this – every ministry in the Church, every expression of love – constitutes a ray of God’s loving grace and glory. It signifies a sharing in the renewal of the whole of creation.

By way of conclusion, I would like to remind you that term "grace" in Greek denotes, among other things, the brilliance of beauty and goodness. I often recall the expression of a contemporary computer scientist, who said that just as the laws of physics support the theory that gravity, weight and mass were not distinguished in the first moments of the universe, in a similar way, I think, God did not create the world with truth, beauty and goodness separated from one another. [Again, this is an introduction to westerners of Easter thought, whereby Truth is not reduced but is kept close to its total essence. It is a very gentle way of breaking the mental ice of reductionist thinking so prevelant in the West's religious experience]

And I, too, believe that, in the future, this "classical triad of the beautiful, the true and the good, which has itself played a significant role in the history of Christian thought"10 will contribute to the transformation of the world.

With our gaze firmly set on Christ, our Lord, who is the absolute truth, the boundless beauty and the incarnate love of God in the world, let us contribute, to the best of our ability, with the grace of the Holy Spirit, to the transformation of the world.

Eternal and infinite God! As we behold in ecstasy the boundlessness of the macrocosm that surrounds us and the boundlessness of the microcosm that we inhabit, we kneel humbly before You in prayer. Through Your grace, incarnate in the person of Your Son and unceasingly active through Your Spirit, transform our existence; transform our world into a world illumined by Your truth, by Your beauty, and by Your love.

Notes:

Vocabulaire de Théologie Biblique, publié sous la direction de Léon Dufour et alia, 3ème ed. Cerf, Paris 1974,1.
Epist. ad Serapion, 1:14, PG 26.565B.
Orationes tres adversus Arianos, PG 25.29A.
To Olympios, About perfections, Greek Fathers of the Church, Gregory Nyssa, vol. 8, Thessaloniki 1980, 422.
Metropolitan Gennadios of Sassima (Ed.), Orthodox Reflections on the Way to Porto Alegre (Final Report), WCC, Geneva 2005, 4.
Epist. 113, PG 32.528
"Transformation calls for metanoia", Address on the theme of the WCC 9th Assembly.
Paraklitiki, Sunday Matins (Orthros), Third Tone.

IbidJ. Pelikan: Jesus through the centuries, Yale University Press 1985, 7., Fourth Tome.

So where is the heresy in the above?

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...HOLY SPIRIT IN OTHER RELIGIONS

“The church is called to discern the signs of the ‘hidden’ Christ and the presence of the Holy Spirit in other religions,” WCC central committee moderator Aram I said in his report to the assembly, according to a release by the Institute on Religion and Democracy.

St. Basil wrote a thesis concerning the proper and profitable way of reading profane and pagan literature. There is good in humankind because we are made in the image of God. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out.

Speaking on the need for unity among Christians, Aram, the Armenian Catholicos of Cilicia (one of the Lebanese church’s four major leaders), said a divided church cannot offer a credible witness to the world.

To reach the world, he advocated “a church beyond its walls” that is “liberated from its self-captivity” inside “dogmatic, ethical, theological, ethnic, cultural and confessional walls.” Aram went on to suggest that the Holy Spirit operates in non-Christian religions.

“According to biblical teachings, God’s gift of salvation in Christ is offered to the whole humanity,” he said. “Likewise, according to Christian pneumatology, the Holy Spirit’s work is cosmic; it reaches in mysterious ways to people of all faiths.”

Its certainly a rather dangerous thing to say in such an assembly - that I must admit. OTOH, we cannot deny the action of God beyond Christianity. Obviously, the Lord is marvellous in all His works.

Changes in the church and the world demand that Christians adopt new approaches to ecumenical organizations in the 21st century, Aram said. He noted that inter-religious dialogue can help believers get away from an “exclusivist, monological and self-centered self-understanding” and “look at the basics of our faith in a broader perspective.”

Aram’s comments on other religions were absent from the WCC’s official news release on his report, which focused on Aram’s call for Christian unity.

We can't look at the basics of our faith in a broader perspective? Again, it was probably not the best place to say it, and you have a good point that applying the wrong medicine the wrong place is a bad thing to do. OTOH, he is above our pay grade and should know more about these things than we do. Also, he is held accountable - not by you and me - but by the Lord.

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http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/wcc/wccwonders.htm

[The following material is from O Timothy magazine, Volume 3, Issue 7, 1986. David W. Cloud, Editor. All rights are reserved. O Timothy is a monthly magazine. Annual subscription is US$20 FOR THE UNITED STATES. Send to Way of Life Literature, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, Michigan 48061, fbns@wayoflife.org. FOR CANADA the subscription is $20 Canadian. Send to Bethel Baptist Church, P.O. Box 9075, London, Ontario N6E 1V0. The Way of Life Internet web site is http://www.wayoflife.org/.]

In July, 1986, S. Wesley Ariarajah, director for interfaith dialogue of the WCC, delivered a report at the World Council headquarters. Consider a few quotes from this report:

"... In the early years, those who were suspicious of dialogue had put the [WCC] Sub-Unit [on Dialogue] very much on the defensive, challenging it to define and redefine the term "dialogue" and to answer the many questions raised by them....

"Much patient and scholarly work was done by those who led the work of the sub-unit to allay the fears and to win the support of churches for the Dialogue programme. ... We should recognize, however, that we are but at a beginning, and much more work will need to be done by many in all parts of the world before Christian theology and life can come to terms with this reality. There is no doubt, however, that this challenge and the response to it will mark a basic shift in the development of the Christian theological tradition...

"... what of evangelism? One of the questions being raised is whether Christians have the responsibility to invite, in all humility, persons of other faiths to follow Christ and to become members of an identifiable Christian community.

"Similarly, questions related to worship have become much more pronounced. How do Christians respond when they are called to pray with people of another tradition and in another name? It is not intended that we should seek to take up or answer these questions here...

"... I believe that we are now entering a stage in which we should challenge our partners in dialogue to take more initiatives for dialogue. It was important and natural that we took most of the early initiatives on dialogues, but I believe that at least a section of the Christian community has demonstrated its good faith sufficiently enough to be able to require of our neighbours that they also take active initiatives for dialogue and also do the needful to prepare their communities, where necessary, to relate to religious pluralism." (Ecumenical Press Service, WCC, 1-15 November 1986, Year 53/Issue 33, 86.11.27)

We make a few observations from this frightful, and yet pathetic, report:

First, we see that through patient politics and clever speaking, the liberal ecumenicals have deceived the great majority of those professing Christians who only a few years ago were questioning whether or not it is right to "dialogue" with non-Christians. Herein we see the fulfillment of warnings such as Romans 16:18. The Apostle commands that Christians separate from those who teach error (Romans 16:17). If they do not obey this command for separation, he warns that the false teachers (such as those who are in the World Council of Churches) will "by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple."

Secondly, we see the end results of ecumenical dialogue with non-Christian religions. (1) Christian doctrine is perverted and changed by these disobedient dialogues. Ariarajah admits that dialogue will result in "a basic shift in the development of the Christian theological tradition." (2) Another result of this unscriptural dialogue is the tendency to consider non-Christians already saved. This is why we see those involved in dialogue asking foolish questions such as "what of evangelism?... [do] Christians have the responsibility to invite persons of other faiths to follow Christ and to become members of an identifiable Christian community?" Oh my, what an ignorant question! Ariarajah is speaking about the unsaved, the idolators, the lost religious persons, the atheists, the agnostics, the humanists, the communists, the Buddhists, the Hindus, the Sikhs, those who have never been born again through personal faith in Christ. Of course we must invite them to come to Christ. If they don't, the Bible solemnly warns they will spend eternity suffering torments in Hell! So we see that this unscriptural dialogue with non-Christian religions leads to all sorts of foolish thinking and error.

Thirdly, we see that the WCC dialogue denies the deity and supremacy of Christ as Lord of lords, as the only God and Savior. This is seen in Ariarajah's statement about whether or not Christians should pray with people of other religions, whether Christians should pray in names other than that of Jesus Christ. Of course not! Of course not! A thousand times no! The truly born again Christian cannot pray in a name other than that of His blessed Christ Jesus. The Bible says there is none other name given under heaven whereby men must be saved (Acts 4:12). Jesus Christ Himself claimed, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME" (John 14:6). He said that all others who claim to be God or who claim to be ways to God or claim to be christs are false. "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them" (John 10:7,8). Jesus Christ was "God manifest in the flesh" (1 Timothy 3:16; Matthew 1:23). In holy prophecy, Jesus Christ is called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6). Jesus Christ alone is God and Jesus Christ alone is the true Savior. All others who profess to be are liars. Here we see the utter folly and error of ecumenical dialogue. We are not commanded by God to dialogue with the unsaved, but to proclaim boldly and unhestitatingly to them that Jesus Christ is God and Savior and all men everywhere are commanded to repent and turn to Christ for salvation from hell.

Finally, the World Council leader shows amazing ignorance of non-Christian religions when he expects that they will "take initiatives for dialogue and do the needful to prepare their communities to relate to religious pluralism." For the most part, this is a silly statement. Are the people of Islam changing their doctrine of Allah and Mohammed to satisfy ecumenical Christians? Of course not. They are aggressively spreading Islam across Europe. Every 10 days a new Muslum mosque goes up in England, we are told!

An ad in a Muslim paper in England boasts that liberal Christians who deny Christ's deity are conforming to the message of Islam, which says that Christ is not God and that through Muhammed was the final revelation given, and in the Koran rather than the Bible is the fullest revelation of God.

And what of the Hindus? Are they, for the most part, adapting themselves to ecumenical dialogue? Of course not. In nations and places where Hinduism is strong enough, such as in Nepal and in some states in India, Christians are persecuted, reviled, hated and abused constantly. And what of Buddhism? Or Sikhism? Are they tolerant of Christians? Are they adapting themselves to ecumenical dialogue? NO! Look at the Buddhist state of Bhutan. Christianity is outlawed and the few existing churches persecuted. Consider Thailand, a nation in which Buddhism is the state religion. Christians are barely tolerated, and even now the government is taking steps to reduce the number of Christian missionaries.

Oh, foolish ecumenists, when will you awaken out of your dreamworld, repent and flee to Christ for salvation, and to the Bible for Wisdom?

Love is a holy state of the soul, disposing it to value knowledge of God above all created things. We cannot attain lasting possession of such love while we are attached to anything worldly. —St. Maximos The Confessor

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Fr. Seraphim Of Platina: The Religion Of The Future

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The Religion of the Future

IT IS DEEPLY INDICATIVE of the spiritual state of contemporary mankind that the "charismatic" and "meditation" experiences are taking root among "Christians." An Eastern religious influence is undeniably at work in such "Christians," but it is only as a result of something much more fundamental: the loss of the very feeling and savor of Christianity, due to which something so alien to Christianity as Eastern "meditation" can take hold of "Christian" souls.

The life of self-centeredness and self-satisfaction lived by most of today's "Christians" is so all-pervading that it effectively seals them off from any understanding at all of spiritual life; and when such people do undertake "spiritual life," it is only as another form of self-satisfaction. This can be seen quite clearly in the totally false religious ideal both of the "charismatic" movement and the various forms of "Christian meditation": all of them promise (and give very quickly) an experience of "contentment" and "peace." But this is not the Christian ideal at all, which if anything may be summed up as a fierce battle and struggle. The "contentment" and "peace" described in these contemporary "spiritual" movements are quite manifestly the product of spiritual deception, of spiritual self-satisfaction - which is the absolute death of the God-oriented spiritual life. All these forms of "Christian meditation" operate solely on the psychic level and have nothing whatever in common with Christian spirituality. Christian spirituality is formed in the arduous struggle to acquire the eternal Kingdom of Heaven, which fully begins only with the dissolution of this temporal world, and the true Christian struggler never finds repose even in the foretastes of eternal blessedness which might be vouchsafed to him in this life; but the Eastern religions, to which the Kingdom of Heaven has not been revealed, strive only to acquire psychic states which begin and end in this life.

In our age of apostasy preceding the manifestation of antichrist, the devil has been loosed for a time (Apoc. 20:7) to work the false miracles which he could not work during the "thousand years" of Grace in the Church of Christ (Apoc. 20:3), and to gather in his hellish harvest of those souls who "received not the love of the truth" (2 Thess. 2:10). We can tell that the time of antichrist is truly near by the very fact that this satanic harvest is now being reaped not merely among the pagan peoples, who have not heard of Christ, but even more among "Christians" who have lost the savor of Christianity. It is of the very nature of antichrist to present the kingdom of the devil as if it were of Christ. The present-day "charismatic" movement and "Christian meditation," and the "new religious consciousness" of which they are part, are forerunners of the religion of the future, the religion of the last humanity, the religion of antichrist, and their chief "spiritual" function is to make available to Christians the demonic initiation hitherto restricted to the pagan world. Let it be that these "religious experiments" are still often of a tentative and groping nature, that there is in them at least as much psychic self-deception as there is a genuinely demonic initiation rite; doubtless not everyone who has successfully "meditated" or thinks he has received the "Baptism of the Spirit" has actually received initiation into the kingdom of satan. But this is the aim of these "experiments," and doubtless the techniques of initiation will become ever more efficient as mankind becomes prepared for them by the attitudes or passivity and openness to new "religious experiences" which are inculcated by these movements.

What has brought humanity - and indeed "Christendom" - to this desperate state? Certainly it is not any overt worship of the devil, which is limited always to a few people; rather, it is something much more subtle, and something fearful for a conscious Orthodox Christian to reflect on: it is the loss of the grace of God, which follows on the loss of the savor of Christianity.

Roman Catholics and Protestants today have not fully tasted of God's grace, and so it is not surprising that they should be unable to discern its demonic counterfeit. But alas! The success of counterfeit spirituality even among Orthodox Christians today reveals how much they also have lost the savor of Christianity and so can no longer distinguish between true Christianity and pseudo-Christianity. For too long have Orthodox Christians taken for granted the precious treasure of their Faith and neglected to put into use the pure gold of its teachings. How many Orthodox Christians even know of the existence of the basic texts of Orthodox spiritual life, which teach precisely how to distinguish between genuine and counterfeit spirituality, texts which give the life and teaching of holy men and women who attained an abundant measure of God¹s grace in this life? How many have made their own the teaching of the Lausiac History, the Ladder of St. John, the Homilies of St. Macarius, the Lives of the God-bearing Fathers of the desert, Unseen Warfare, St. John of Kronstadt's My Life in Christ?

In the Life of the great Father of the Egyptian desert, St. Paisius the Great (June 19), we may see a shocking example of how easy it is to lose the grace of God. Once a disciple of his was walking to a city in Egypt to sell his handiwork. On the way he met a Jew who, seeing his simplicity, began to deceive him, saying: "O beloved, why do you believe in a simple, crucified Man, when He was not at all the awaited Messiah? Another is to come, but not He." The disciple, being weak in mind and simple in heart, began to listen to these words and allowed himself to say: "Perhaps what you say is correct." When he returned to the desert, St. Paisius turned away from him and would not speak a single word to him. Finally, after the disciple¹s long entreaty, the Saint said to him: "Who are you? I do not know you. This disciple of mine was a Christian and had upon him the grace of Baptism, but you are not such a one; if you are actually my disciple, then the grace of Baptism has left you and the image of a Christian has been removed." The disciple with tears related his conversation with the Jew, to which the Saint replied: "O wretched one! What could be worse and more foul than such words, by which you renounced Christ and His divine Baptism? Now go and weep over yourself as you wish, for you have no place with me; your name is written with those who have renounced Christ, and together with them you will receive judgment and torments." On hearing this judgment the disciple was filled with repentance, and at his entreaty the Saint shut himself up and prayed to the Lord to forgive his disciple this sin. The Lord heard the Saint¹s prayer and granted him to behold a sign of His forgiveness of the disciple. The Saint then warned the disciple: "O child, give glory and thanksgiving to Christ God together with me, for the unclean, blasphemous spirit has departed from you, and in his place the Holy Spirit has descended upon you, restoring to you the grace of Baptism. And so, guard yourself now, lest out of sloth and carelessness the nets of the enemy should fall upon you again and, having sinned, you should inherit the fire of gehenna."

Significantly, it is among "ecumenical Christians" that the "charismatic" and "meditation" movements have taken root. The characteristic belief of the heresy of ecumenism is this: that the Orthodox Church is not the one true Church of Christ; that the grace of God is present also in other "Christian" denominations, and even in non-Christian religions; that the narrow path of salvation according to the teaching of the Holy Fathers of the Orthodox Church is only "one path among many" to salvation; and that the details of one's belief in Christ are of little importance, as is one's membership in any particular church. Not all the Orthodox participants in the ecumenical movement believe this entirely (although Protestants and Roman Catholics most certainly do); but by their very participation in this movement, including invariably common prayer with those who believe wrongly about Christ and His Church, they tell the heretics who behold them: "Perhaps what you say is correct," even as the wretched disciple of St. Paisius did. No more than this is required for an Orthodox Christian to lose the grace of God; and what labor it will cost for him to gain it back!

How much, then, must Orthodox Christians walk in the fear of God, trembling lest they lose His grace, which by no means is given to everyone, but only to those who hold the true Faith, lead a life of Christian struggle, and treasure the grace of God which leads them heavenward. And how much more cautiously must Orthodox Christians walk today above all, when they are surrounded by a counterfeit Christianity that gives its own experiences of "grace" and the "Holy Spirit" and can abundantly quote the Scriptures and the Holy Fathers to "prove" it! Surely the last times are near, when there will come spiritual deception so persuasive as to "deceive, if it were possible, even the very elect" (Matt. 24:24).

Orthodox Christians! Hold fast to the grace which you have; never let it become a matter of habit; never measure it by merely human standards or expect it to be logical or comprehensible to those who understand nothing higher than what is human or who think to obtain the grace of the Holy Spirit in some other way than that which the one Church of Christ has handed down to us. True Orthodoxy by its very nature must seem totally out of place in these demonic times, a dwindling minority of the despised and "foolish," in the midst of a religious "revival" inspired by another kind of spirit. But let us take comfort from the certain words of our Lord Jesus Christ: "Fear not, little flock, for it is your Fathers good pleasure to give you the Kingdom" (Luke 12:32).

Let all true Orthodox Christians strengthen themselves for the battle ahead, never forgetting that in Christ the victory is already ours. He has promised that the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church (Matt. 16:18), and that for the sake of the elect He will cut short the days of the last great tribulation (Matt. 24:22). And in truth, "If God be for us, who can be against us?" (Rom. 8:31). Even in the midst of the cruelest temptations, we are commanded to be of good cheer; I have overcome the world (John 16:33). Let us live, even as true Christians of all times have lived, in expectation of the end of all things and the coming of our dear Saviour; for "He that giveth testimony of these things saith: Surely I come quickly. Amen. Come, Lord Jesus" (Apoc. 22:20).

Love is a holy state of the soul, disposing it to value knowledge of God above all created things. We cannot attain lasting possession of such love while we are attached to anything worldly. —St. Maximos The Confessor

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