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Justin Kissel

Post by Justin Kissel »

Jose,

Your thread was not deleted. I just posted on it not more than 20 minutes ago! Again, contact Anastasios over at orthodoxchristianity.net and he will set you up so that you can find the thread again.

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Are you sure? :shock: So I am sorry!!! :oops: :oops: :oops:

P.S. But daher was baned \/

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So? This board is full of individuals belonging to "traditional" schismatic groups outside of the Orthodox Church.

Oh, please!! :bump: We don't think like this.

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Daher wasn't banned as far as I can tell, I just looked at his profile and it doesn't show him as such. The only one recently banned that I have seen was Br. Nathaniel.

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You know, my topic was FIRST moved and THEN deleted.

Wrong again buddy.

Verily, verily, I say unto you that It was moved, and remains existing, and so shall be, even unto the end of the ages. Amen.

Unfortunately for you if you was unable to realize this.

Unfortunately for you, you still have no reason to not come back here and back up your claims. Be a man.

When I say they are not orthodox I mean they are not from our same church, just this.

And when I say that they are Orthodox in spite of not being in Communion with your Church, I mean it, and am prepared to prove it.

The word 'orthodox' comes from greek and I think those who never used this language as 'jew' and 'coptic' shoud use anoter word for not make confusion.

Putting aside the self-evident absurdity of your request, I would like to point out the fact that the Coptic term for Orthodox is exactly the same as the Greek term for Orthodox. Even if it wasn't, it would still be translated Orthodox, an english word amongst many english words based on the Greek language, but alas, it is. The Greek language has always been part of the Coptic heritage; the Fathers of the Coptic Church, Sts. Athanasios, Cyril, Dioscoros, and Severos were very well-educated in the Greek language.

The Oriental Orthodox Church considers herself to be THE Orthodox Church just as much as your Church does. Give me ONE objective reason as to why your Church has right to it, and why mine doesn't. That's a challenge SIR.

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Post by Anastasios »

joselauro wrote:

P.S. But daher was baned \/

No, he was not. In fact, he logged in today.

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Post by joselauro »

EkhristosAnesti is a coptic one! :mrgreen:

he says

The Oriental Orthodox Church considers herself to be THE Orthodox Church just as much as your Church does.

At least you agree we are not of the same church! For me it is enough! :bump:

P.S. Roman catholic thinks the same!

P.S.2 The 7+2 concils are above all a matter of faith! I belive in all of them for the same reason I belive in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John gospels and not in Thomas or Jude iscariotes ones. By the way thanks for the last one :bump:

P.S.3. If there were still arians in the world the ecumenical WCC would create also "arian orthodox".
:ohvey:

P.S.4 Just read all of this
http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/ea_mono.aspx
(all the five links)

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Post by EkhristosAnesti »

joselauro wrote:

EkhristosAnesti is a coptic one!

Amen, and proud of it. The Coptic Orthodox Church: The Church that excelled/excels in ascetism - the Church that introduced the Orthodox world to monastacism, The Church that excelled/excels in academics - the Church that introduced the Orthodox world to allegorical exegesis, the Church that produced the greatest defenders of Orthodoxy: Athanasios, Kyrillos, Severos. The Church that is of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Orthodox Church. Amen. Glory be to Her, forever and ever.

At least you agree we are not of the same church! For me it is enough!

Buddy, what planet are you on? The Oriental Orthodox Church has recognised the division between our Church's for 1500 hundred years. Why would we seek to hide or deny it? We value our rejection of the crypto-Nestorian heresy promulgated at Chalcedon with much pride. We consider ourselves as victorious as we were in the days of St Athanasios and St Kyrillos. Our victory was victory from above; victory over evil and heresy.

P.S. Roman catholic thinks the same!

P.S. What's your point? Their claim to Orthodoxy is no more invalid than your own Church's claim to Orthodoxy. I asked you to come back to OC.net, to the thread that you created (the thread that still miraculously exists), to PROVE your claim that the Orthodox (Oriental) Church has no right to the title "Orthodox". Evidently, however, you are a coward.

P.S.2 The 7+2 concils are above all a matter of faith! I belive in all of them for the same reason I belive in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John gospels and not in Thomas or Jude iscariotes ones.

7+2? You mean 9? I don't get it. Is it 7 or 9? Please make up your mind. You can't even decide how many and which Councils are "above all matters of faith", and you expect me to take you seriously?

P.S.3. If there were still arians in the world the ecumenical WCC would create also "arian orthodox".

And they'd probably end up making you look foolish in a debate concerning their alleged Orthodoxy because you apparently lack a grasp on basic logic to make coherent and objective arguments, even if your opponents happened to be worse heretics than yourself.

P.S.4 Just read all of this

jose, sorry i'm not familiar with Brazilian names. Am I dealing with a female who is too scared to debate a man, and who thus consequently cops-out by throwing a weblink in my face? Or am I just dealing with a girly man i.e. a coward, who runs his mouth and runs away when it comes to the crunch?

P.S. 1: I could throw 5 weblinks in your face for every weblink you give me.

P.S. 2: Do a search on threads relating to Chalcedon on OC.net and you will find that 90% of the claims made on that site have already been addressed by I and others.

P.S. 3: I have read all the lies at heteredox-info.com, and have in fact produced two full refutations of two of their articles, and was in the middle of a third, though I left this project unfinished as I simply lost interest.

P.S. 4: Thank you for re-igniting my determination to shut these liars down.

P.S. 5: Be a man, and come back on oc.net and finish what you started.

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