These arguements go around in circles and get nowhere. It's all about male egos and pride. Get over yourselves...humble yourselves and stop trying to post replies that you think will trap someone else or refute their comment...and just live for the faith and be as brothers.
Oh, brother, where art thou? The demons must be rolling on the ground with laughter because of you guys. You're such easy targets.
With an ego and pride as great as yours, Joanna, I wonder if the men here are the only ones the demons are laughing at... The phrase "pot kettle black" is on the top of my mind right now.
Anastasios