scwaterfowl wrote:I must say, "thank you!!" This is the best laugh I've had in several days!!!!
Here they have a said: "that one that laughs last, he laughs better"
We will see who laughs last and better.
The date for the "full canonical communion" is already official from the ROCOR Website:
LOS ANGELES/MOSCOW: December 27, 2006
"On the Joint Divine Services Scheduled for May 2007 for the Signing of the Act of Canonical Communion"
A Statement by the Secretaries of the Commission of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia on talks with the Moscow Patriarchate and of the Commission of the Moscow Patriarchate on talks with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia
The Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia on December 8, 2006, and the Holy Synod of the Moscow Patriarchate on December 26, 2006, approved the proposals of the Commissions of the Moscow Patriarchate on dialog with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia and the Commission of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia on talks with the Moscow Patriarchate regarding the place, time and rite of the signing of the Act of Canonical Communion, and also the order of divine services connected thereto. These proposals were prepared at a joint session of the two Commissions in Cologne on October 26, 2006.
According to the plan, the signing of the Act of Canonical Communion is scheduled to take place on May 17, 2007. It is expected that on this day, when the Orthodox Church celebrates the feast of the Ascension of the Lord, His Holiness Patriarch Alexy II of Moscow and All Russia and the members of the Holy Synod of the Moscow Patriarchate, and the First Hierarch of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, His Eminence Metropolitan Laurus, along with the members of the Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, will gather at Christ the Savior Cathedral. After a short moleben, the decrees of the Holy Synod of the Moscow Patriarchate and of the Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia on the confirmation of the Act of Canonical Communion will be read aloud, after which the Act itself will be read.
His Holiness the Patriarch and His Eminence the First Hierarch will sign the Act, greetings will be exchanged and Many Years then sung.
Immediately following the signing of the Act of Canonical Communion, His Holiness Patriarch Alexy, His Eminence Metropolitan Laurus and the other bishops will conduct Divine Liturgy. During the service, the Royal Doors will be open in the Paschal tradition, and the people of God can fully participate in the joy of the first joint partaking of the Eucharist by the hierarchs and clergymen of the then-united Russian Church.
On May 19, on the feast day of St Job of the Much-suffering and of St Job of Pochaev, which is also the birthday of Tsar-Martyr Nicholas II, His Holiness Patriarch Alexy and His Eminence Metropolitan Laurus, the bishops and clergymen of the Russian Church Abroad will perform Divine Liturgy at Uspensky Cathedral in Moscow's Kremlin.
On May 20, 2007, on the seventh week of Pascha, His Holiness Patriarch Alexy and His Eminence Metropolitan Laurus, along with the bishops and clergymen of Russia and from Abroad will perform the consecration of the Church of the Holy New Martyrs and Confessors of Russia in Butovo, and then Divine Liturgy in the newly-consecrated church.
On May 15, 2004, Metropolitan Laurus, during his first official visit to Russia, and the members of His Eminence's delegation, prayed during divine services performed by His Holiness Patriarch Alexy II on Butovo Field, the place where an untold number of martyrs died at the hands of the godless regime, many of whom have been canonized as saints. On that day, the Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church performed the ceremony of the laying of the foundation of this new church, which is now being prepared for consecration. The First Hierarch of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia also participated in the laying of this foundation.
By the prayers of the Holy New Martyrs and Confessors of Russia, the Lord has blessed our path to achieving the holy task of restoring the unity of the Russian Church, which had endured great sorrows in the 20 th century. We believe that through their heavenly intercession, this will be accomplished to the Glory of God and the joy of the people of the Church.
joasia wrote:So hear this...there is plenty of opposition to the union and all is not as it seems, with all the negative poop that has been spread by NON-ROCOR.
Why don't you people ask the ones who live in this situation, what is going on; instead of trying to be experts about a life that you don't live.
Joanna
Dear Joanna,
Joanna, what is going on? Where did you get the idea that the majiority of ROCOR are aganist the union? If that is true- I thank God that he has left some many knees that have not bent down to Baal but that is not the impression we on the outside get.
On another list a ROCOR priest told me that 99 per cent of you support the union.
A confused Theophan.
On another list a ROCOR priest told me that 99 per cent of you support the union.
One can only hope. That would make the inevitable schism the smallest in ROCOR's history. Though as some have argued, most of the disgruntled people have already left ROCOR, so that's why so few people within ROCOR are fussing about the communion/union issue now. I guess you guys were right though, the sky is indeed now falling. It's only been thirty-some years since people have foretold the demise of ROCOR by falling into modernism and ecumenism and sergianism and whateverelseism.
Well, I'm laughing last; not sure if its better or not!!
I do have another question...
What does your bishop have to say about your (I assume I'm addressing a priest here) opposition to the re-unification?? Again, I'm assuming that you are ROCOR, not some schismatic wanna-be like Joanna. Although I could be wrong; so I'll be straight-forward--"Priest Siluan, are you a member of the Church Abroad or not??"
If not, you, nor Joanna have a dog in this fight; and if so, please keep your vicious lies and rumours to yourself. I still don't understand the interest by outside groups; I value her opinion as much as I do that of Micky Mouse. Perhaps I should consult her about our local county council decisions... Could she also tell us why Bishop Gavriel signed the Address of December 11th??
What does your bishop say, Joanna??? Perhaps you are some femi-nazi that knows better than he does!? Like any good attorney, I ask the question already knowing the answer...