Metropolitan Neophytos of Morphou

[eish]

What is this about ? Sorry I am not at the library so i can't access that link

What is the latest on this hierarch ?

The lads found a video from 2019. In it the metropolitan talks about one of his many “prophetic” elders who died in 2016 and used to claim that “one day you would be having your coffee [i.e. morning] and then you would learn that the Israelis have attacked Iran's nuclear program.” The lads think this “prophecy” confirms their apocalyptic WO views.

In reality, Israel attacking Iran's nuclear program is not a new phenomenon and it isn't even the first time such a thing has happened since 2016, never mind since you or I were born. I'm not downplaying the war. It just is not some great prophecy--it's a day ending in “y.”

[Barbara]

Oh thank you. Was it elder Porphyrius who was supposed to have said that ? Sounds familiar.

IF same fake-elder, he also claimed that one should watch for that event. Shortly after, he claimed, Erdogan of Turkiye would be gone, or overthrown.

My guess is that by extension, he probably pictured the Greeks taking over Constantinople like some of these other fake-holy men.

There was another case of that which we talked about on here.

Note how the Greek pseudo-elders always include in their prophecies a prominent carrot appealing to Greek nationalistic sentiments !

It gives them away as fake. For even today, meetings are taking place between Turks and Greeks to try to find accommodation amidst the intense rivalry of centuries.

NO WAY are Greeks suddenly reclaiming the old Byzantine capital.
Only wishing to.

So it's World Orthodox Greek 'elders' who proclaim this type of false prophecy ?

Let's see what happens but I think you are implying that it was no miraculous revelation that some day the Isnotrealis would try to attack that facility ?

Erdogan looks fragile. He is showing his age these days.
But the Turkish leader is still going strong by all outward appearances.

[eish]

This time the elder was someone named Theodore.

St. Kosmas the Aetolian did prophesy about the Russians capturing Constantinople and returning it to the Greeks.* However, as you rightly note this is being twisted by modernist elders who feed like vampires on Greek nationalistic sentiments. There has not been a great repentance among the Orthodox. Instead what we are seeing is a doubling down on “putting their trust in princes” by allying more closely (militarily and in matters of Faith) with the heretical Western powers in an attempt to get back the empire which the leadership feel they are entitled to, in much the same way as it happened with every one of the Unions going all the way back to the First Crusade.

If history is to be our guide, the Greeks may be expected to lose more territory rather than regaining anything. God is not mocked. But perhaps there will be more repentance which I do not currently see.

(*If he did really say that, as there may be fake prophecies attributed to real saints. Just because something is in books does not prove it ipso facto.)

[Barbara]

Oh, i see. Sorry, wrong elder !
I thoroughly agree that the prophecies that are bandied about - I think in most ALL cases - are faked ! Just passed down through generations.

We all need to be aware of these inadvertent deceptions that can twist one's mind into completely the wrong channels.

Like the one about St John Maximovitch supposedly having said that the Anti-... was born that minute. It's too wild to even put any stock in at all

This may well describe the root of the Orthodox Ethos problem. Followers mean well, but the leader of the sheep is faulty in this regard.
One flaw like this is enough to steer that entire flock into difficult shores.