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Re: Deposition of Matthew Raphael Johnson

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eish wrote: Fri 20 December 2024 11:00 pm

I did not say HOCNA is ecumenist. I said they're heretics.

HOCNA is heretical, and Thomas is a heretic. Name worship is heresy, and so is taking saints off the calendar so you can change the teaching of the Church by changing which writings are accepted. And Thomas does not merely mention Puhalo and Romanides--he uses these flaming heretics as authorities in matters of theology.

It is rather telling that after repeatedly not listening to the bishops, whether good or bad ones, you feel the need to but into discussions about the deposition of heretics for synodally condemned heresy, with youtube garbage about the heresy not being heresy, but the Orthodox being supposedly heretics instead.

You have fallen into heresy precisely because you never listen to clergy, yet you believe anything at all from the rest. Those who believe anything they read, are better off illiterate.

Sava should have warned me about, him lord have mercy on my heresiarch soul, i denounce this heresy i want to profess orthodoxy, if only Reader Sava was here to guide me.

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Re: Deposition of Matthew Raphael Johnson

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Lazarún Zalónir wrote: Sat 21 December 2024 12:25 am
eish wrote: Fri 20 December 2024 11:00 pm

I did not say HOCNA is ecumenist. I said they're heretics.

HOCNA is heretical, and Thomas is a heretic. Name worship is heresy, and so is taking saints off the calendar so you can change the teaching of the Church by changing which writings are accepted. And Thomas does not merely mention Puhalo and Romanides--he uses these flaming heretics as authorities in matters of theology.

It is rather telling that after repeatedly not listening to the bishops, whether good or bad ones, you feel the need to but into discussions about the deposition of heretics for synodally condemned heresy, with youtube garbage about the heresy not being heresy, but the Orthodox being supposedly heretics instead.

You have fallen into heresy precisely because you never listen to clergy, yet you believe anything at all from the rest. Those who believe anything they read, are better off illiterate.

Sava should have warned me about, him lord have mercy on my heresiarch soul, i denounce this heresy i want to profess orthodoxy, if only Reader Sava was here to guide me.

i repent of my heresy and will not profess it, Romanides is a heretic just as Vladimir Moss says, nothing more needs to be said.

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Re: Deposition of Matthew Raphael Johnson

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Lazarún Zalónir wrote: Sat 21 December 2024 12:25 am
Lazarún Zalónir wrote: Sat 21 December 2024 12:25 am
eish wrote: Fri 20 December 2024 11:00 pm

I did not say HOCNA is ecumenist. I said they're heretics.

HOCNA is heretical, and Thomas is a heretic. Name worship is heresy, and so is taking saints off the calendar so you can change the teaching of the Church by changing which writings are accepted. And Thomas does not merely mention Puhalo and Romanides--he uses these flaming heretics as authorities in matters of theology.

It is rather telling that after repeatedly not listening to the bishops, whether good or bad ones, you feel the need to but into discussions about the deposition of heretics for synodally condemned heresy, with youtube garbage about the heresy not being heresy, but the Orthodox being supposedly heretics instead.

You have fallen into heresy precisely because you never listen to clergy, yet you believe anything at all from the rest. Those who believe anything they read, are better off illiterate.

Sava should have warned me about, him lord have mercy on my heresiarch soul, i denounce this heresy i want to profess orthodoxy, if only Reader Sava was here to guide me.

i repent of my heresy and will not profess it, Romanides is a heretic just as Vladimir Moss says, nothing more needs to be said.

i will not believe imiaslavie ever, flat earth is fine, but imiaslavie is heresy!

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Re: Deposition of Matthew Raphael Johnson

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Don't overstate it when you condemn your mistakes. You are not a heresiarch. You were deceived by heresy, which is a fall of a sort and I rightly call it that, but it is a human error. So long as you accept correction that does not make you a heretic.

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Re: Deposition of Matthew Raphael Johnson

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eish wrote: Sat 21 December 2024 1:44 am

Don't overstate it when you condemn your mistakes. You are not a heresiarch. You were deceived by heresy, which is a fall of a sort and I rightly call it that, but it is a human error. So long as you accept correction that does not make you a heretic.

Imiaslavie is a complex topic and if HOCNA teaches a heretical version of it, is difficult to say. You come out and call them heretics. That's quite an accusation and I would be careful with throwing that out easily.

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eish wrote: Fri 20 December 2024 2:33 pm
Lazarún Zalónir wrote: Fri 20 December 2024 2:20 pm

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I did not leave ecumenist churches for the purpose of being ecumenist towards every heretic who calls himself anti-ecumenist. Frankly, I am tired of Thomas's nonsense.

You're not alone in this assessment.

Fr Joseph Suaidan (Suaiden, same guy)

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Re: Deposition of Matthew Raphael Johnson

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Suaidan wrote: Sat 21 December 2024 2:53 pm
eish wrote: Fri 20 December 2024 2:33 pm
Lazarún Zalónir wrote: Fri 20 December 2024 2:20 pm

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I did not leave ecumenist churches for the purpose of being ecumenist towards every heretic who calls himself anti-ecumenist. Frankly, I am tired of Thomas's nonsense.

You're not alone in this assessment.

Please Father, lets not start some war, we need to be patient and try to understand them, even though you don't like me, you could at least listen to me.

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