Jesus Prayer

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Fotina
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Jesus Prayer

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For years I plead with Our Lord to let me come closer to Him (for a while I would become violently ill upon entering a church). The Jesus Prayer has brought me in closer union with Him. Yet, if I'm concentrating on a project and unable to recite The Jesus Prayer, I find that my thoughts are interrupted with His presence - at which time I ask His advice and assistance.

Also, for a long long time I honestly couldn't see my sins and "knowing" that we are all sinners, I begged Our Lord to show me what my soul looks like to Him. I'm sure He has only shown me a glimpse, but even with that I'm truly ashamed how so many passions have been raging within me. Whenever I look with distain at someone else's transgressions, I am immediately reminded how I too (even more so) let my passions take hold of my life.

Now The Jesus Prayer is so much a part of my life that I find it incomprehensible to turn away. Maybe I wasn't ready for it earlier in life, Paradisos. Our paths are not the same and I can only speak for my journey.

I know I have not perfected The Jesus Prayer and most assuredly never will, but I will go as far as He allows. So like a child, I put my hand in His and go where He leads. I am only a novice in this pursuit and would welcome hearing of other's experiences.

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Jesus Prayer.

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I do the Jesus Prayer 4 times a day at set times during the day for ten minutes at a time. I try to be very strict on myself with the time and duration. Sometimes it is extremely difficult and often I find myself almost in despair at my inability to concentrate or my almost irresistable desire to cease before the ten minutes is up. But I have found that the fruits of this prayer are not all obvious and visible, and often my most pathetic efforts are rewarded with Gods most sweet gifts.

The only reason I started to do this prayer was because God in his mercy showed me my sins, and I realised that the only way to truly live was to hold as my ideal unceasing prayer and repentance.

I have no Spiritual Father, and no-one to teach me, but according to the Fathers, those without guides are taught by God through events and extreme providential crosses. This is true. I think I have fallen for every kind of delusion I have read about through my proud and vain and ignorent pursuit of this Holy way. But Jesus is gentle and beyond good and he lets me destroy myself often, so that he can revive me again with his Grace. Let me just say, do not take the warnings on delusion lightly. I also reccomend, if I may, if you have no experienced guide, keep the prayer to ten or fifteen minutes at a time. I learned this after some bad experiences trying to pray for a long time and being led by my imagination into the depths of fear.

I think now that when I stop my prayer, or forget the Lord, or lose myself in my daydreams or passions or cares, I am actually dying. I mean I am dying the death of my soul and it only takes a few seconds to acomplish. That is what the Jesus Prayer has taught me. It has also taught me fear and hope. In between prayer I try to keep the prayer going inside me whatever I am doing, and if i forget it, start again right away. Its like a shield and a weapon and food and drink.

I keep three things in mind during the prayer that I learned from the Fathers. Number one is to strive to concentrate only on the words of the prayer and ignore every other feeling and thought. We do the human part, which is attention to the words, and God does the divine part, pouring grace into the humble heart that only tries to say the words without distraction. Looking for things is no good. The second thing I remember is to always stay within the faith I have recieved, not to try to go beyond what I have got, or think that my efforts are any help in some kind of deepening of the prayer. St Isaac says to pray like an ant. The third thing I try to do is, before i pray, I always do prostrations and ask God to grant me repentance and kindle in me fear of him along with hope in his mercy.

I try to pray as if I am whispering straight into the the Lords ear as a small child he is holding in his arm.

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Jesus Prayer.

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From the Epistles of Elder Paisios:

“Ask for repentance in your prayer and nothing else, neither for divine lights, nor miracles, nor prophecies, nor spiritual gifts – nothing but repentance. Repentance will bring you humility, humility will bring you the Grace of God, and God will have in His Grace everything you need for your salvation, or anything you might need to help another soul.

“Things are very simple and there is no reason why we should complicate them. If we regard matters in this way, we will feel the Jesus Prayer as a necessity and will not grow weary. We will be able to repeat it many times and our heart will feel a sweet pain, then Christ Himself will shed His sweet consolation inside our heart.

“Thus prayer does not tire but invigorates. It is tiresome only when we do not enter into its meaning and do not understand the sense given to it by our Holy Fathers. Once we comprehend the need for God’s mercy, the desire of this hunger will compel us, without pressuring ourselves in prayer, to open our mouth like a nursing infant, and we will feel, simultaneously, all the security and joy of a baby in its mothers embrace.”

Justin Kissel

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...anyone else?

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