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Father Cassien you are talking about is a Matthewist monk...

In English, generally people say "Matthewite". Although many, including myself, consider the term "Matthewite" a pejorative, and believe that the Holy Synod has a legitimate claim to the name GOC of Greece.

At any rate, I'm not sure what implication you're making by pointing out that Fr. Cassien is a "Matthewist monk". Please clarify.

I vaguely seem to recall reading somewhere that this Fr. Cassien was associated with some who reject icons of the Holy Trinity where the Father is depicted as the Ancient of days. Perhaps he has authored some writings on this topic? I can't exactly recall.

It would be disturbing if this were true.

Perhaps you could do me a favor and help find out if Fr. Cassien rejects these holy icons.

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I thought the English word was Matthewist and not Matthewite. I gave this information because frushka gora seemed to be looking for a GOC-Chrysostomus II parish. I do not know Fatjher Cassien personally and I know nothing about his opinion about the icon you talked about. I think he is under S.B. Archbishop Nicolas of Athens.

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Jean-Serge wrote:

I thought the English word was Matthewist and not Matthewite. I gave this information because frushka gora seemed to be looking for a GOC-Chrysostomus II parish. I do not know Fatjher Cassien personally and I know nothing about his opinion about the icon you talked about. I think he is under S.B. Archbishop Nicolas of Athens.

Yes y do.Therfore y am not satisfide.When y look at rezults. :shock:

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Dear Jean-Serge,

Frushka gora may have originally been looking for a GOC-Chrysostomos II parish, as you stated. However, recall that you also said:

Unfortunately, there is no GOC-CII parish in France... The only traditionnal orthodox churches are GOC-Makarios, RTOC and ROCIE...

I simply felt it was necessary to point out that you overlooked Fr. Cassien of the GOC synod of Abp. Nicholas. You mentioned three other synods that are not affiliated with the GOC-CII, so there is no reason why you couldn't also have included the representative of the synod of Abp. Nicholas--that is, unless you don't view this GOC synod to be a traditional Orthodox synod.

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You are right, Cyprian, I forgot the Matthewites. Shame on me! :?

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Cyprian wrote:

I vaguely seem to recall reading somewhere that this Fr. Cassien was associated with some who reject icons of the Holy Trinity where the Father is depicted as the Ancient of days. Perhaps he has authored some writings on this topic? I can't exactly recall.

It would be disturbing if this were true.

Perhaps you could do me a favor and help find out if Fr. Cassien rejects these holy icons.

Dear Cyprian,

According to Vladimir Moss who lived with him in for six months he was the one who started the agitation aganist these Holy Icons within the "Matthewites".

According to a post on paradosis Petros in reply to you mentioned that he had put out a book attacking these Icons after the 1995 schism.

Archimandrite Cassian however has not gone over to Metropolitian Kyrikos who broke from the Synod of Archbishop Nicholas over its refusal to anathemize the "5".

I hope that is of some help.

Theophan.

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