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A reply to a Kyprianite attack upon the Church of Christ.

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THE CYPRIANITES, THE TIKHONITES AND BISHOP AGATHANGELUS

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 The fall of ROCOR into heresy and schism on May 17, 2007 has produced a flurry of activity from the Cyprianites (especially Archbishop Chrysostomos of Etna) and the Romanian and Bulgarian Old Calendarists that are in communion with them. Overtures appear to have been made to two groups who separated from ROCOR: the Tikhonites (so called from their leader, Metropolitan Tikhon of Omsk and Siberia), who separated over five years ago, and Bishop Agathangelus of Odessa, who separated on May 17.  


 The overtures to the former group would seem to be doomed since on November 7/20, 2005 Metropolitan Cyprian, having received Igumen George (Pukhaev) from the Tikhonites in 2003, consecrated him as Bishop of Alania, with his see in Tskhinval, Osetia. The Tikhonites are unlikely to take kindly to this “poaching”, especially since it took place on the canonical territory of the Russian Church, where they consider the Greek Old Calendarists to have no jurisdiction. Moreover, the Tikhonite ecclesiology in relation to the Moscow Patriarchate and World Orthodoxy is stricter than that of the Cyprianites. 


 At first sight, it would seem that the Cyprianites are unlikely to be more successful in relation to Bishop Agathangelus, who has issued a statement declaring his lack of interest in any union with non-Russian Churches. Moreover, he was a member of the compromised Lavrite Synod that, among other things, broke communion with the Cyprianites themselves in 2005. However, the very fact that Agathangelus remained for so long with the Lavrites when they had clearly embarked on a pro-MP, ecumenist course may have encouraged the Cyprianites to think that he embraces the same “moderate” (i.e. neither one thing nor the other) ecclesiology as themselves.  


 In any case, the Romanian Metropolitan Vlasie, and the Bulgarian Bishop Photius of Triaditsa, who are in communion with Metropolitan Cyprian, have offered to help Bishop Agathangelus to ordain bishops for his group, which would seem to indicate that the Cyprianite group of Churches is looking to Bishop Agathangelus as the best candidate for the title “last remaining true ROCOR bishop(s)”. 


 This probably explains the panicky, explosive reaction of the Cyprianite Archbishop Chrysostomos of Etna on hearing that Bishop Agathangelus’ clergy in the USA had had informal talks with clergy of the True Orthodox Church of Greece (the so-called “Chrysostomites”) – by far the largest Greek Old Calendarist Church, comprising 70% of all the Greek Old Calendarists, which defrocked Metropolitan Cyprian in 1986 for communion with the new calendarists. The Cyprianite Chrysostomos, as is his wont, launched into a very fierce and slanderous attack against the True Orthodox Church of Greece. However, this did not stop the development of friendly relations between the “Agathangelites” and the “Chrysostomites”. Thus on May 25, 2007 Archbishop Chrysostom (Kiousis) of Athens and his Synod sent a letter to Bishop Agathangelus, in which they congratulated the “Agathangelites” for refusing to follow ROCOR into “ecclesiastical non-existence”. Fr. Victor Dobrov, speaking on behalf of the “Agathangelites”, said he was “very pleased” by this letter. But he stressed that the Chrysostomites, unlike the Cyprianites, had not offered to help to consecrate any bishops for their group, and that they were not in fact interested in consecrations. 


 On July 1 an anonymous “Greek Old Calendarist” (why anonymous?) returned to the attack against the Chrysostomites. Dismissing all non-Cyprianite accounts of the history of the Greek Old Calendarists, including that of the present writer, as “full of errors and omissions”, he proceeds to “set the record straight”. However, this “putting the record straight” is so short, so full of personal bile and so lacking in theological content or historical accuracy as to make any detailed refutation pointless. 


 One statement of his, however, does call for comment: “Though some might argue that the Cyprianites have a debatable ‘ecclesiology’, (but only in theory), our experience with them is that most of them conduct themselves as true Christians”. We have no wish to deny the possibility that the great majority of Cyprianites behave as true Christians (except, it would seem, when they tell lies about the True Orthodox Church of Greece!). But the phrase “debatable ‘ecclesiology (but only in theory)” requires further comment. 


 How can an ecclesiology be debatable “in theory” but not in practice?! An ecclesiology is by definition a theory, not a practice – or rather, it is a teaching, a teaching about the nature of the Church. As such, it is either true or false, whereas a practice is either good or bad, productive or unproductive, efficient or inefficient. Now the Cyprianite ecclesiology is that heretics and schismatics are “sick” members of the True Church. That includes, in their opinion, the Moscow Patriarchate, the new calendarists and “World Orthodoxy” in general. That teaching is false – as even the anonymous “Greek Old Calendarist” seems to acknowledge by calling it “debatable” and by refusing to discuss it in detail. 


 If the Cyprianite ecclesiology is false, then it is completely irrelevant how good or bad individual Cyprianites may be. Unfortunately, however, the Cyprianite arguments often seem to come down to a comparison between personalities. Archbishop Chrysostomos of Etna and the anonymous “Greek Old Calendarist” both praise Metropolitan Cyprian to the skies, while condemning Chrysostomite hierarchs in equally personal terms. In fact, many have remarked that Cyprianism seems to be built, on the one hand, on a false ecclesiology of accepting the ecumenist heretics as Orthodox, and on the other hand, on an attitude of hero-worship, prosopolatria, in relation to their leader. This makes the charge of “papism” directed against Archbishop Chrysostom of Athens sound particularly hypocritical… 


 In an earlier article (“The Cyprianites and ROCOR”, Vernost’, 85, May, 2007) the present writer concluded: “If there is one lesson to be drawn from the fall of ROCA, it is that provided by St. Mark of Ephesus: there is no mid-point between truth and falsehood, no “moderate” position that can keep clear of the abyss of heresy while refusing to condemn and anathematize it and its leaders. The fall of ROCA has been the direct result of their rejection of their own anathema against ecumenism, under whose curse they have now fallen. The only condition for the continued survival of the anti-uniates is a return to humble obedience to that anathema and a firm rejection of those siren voices coming from the Cyprianites and elsewhere that preach acceptance of the enemies of God as one’s brothers in Christ.” 


 It also should be remembered that the Cyprianites, while being in schism from their own “Mother Church”, the True Orthodox Church of Greece, have only a superficial understanding of the situation in the Russian Church. This is proved by their Synod’s official statement of May 10/23, 2007, which in its ninth point declares that “the historical basis and occasion for the rift among the Russians (1917-) has been removed and no longer exists, it was quite different from the dispute which divided, and continues to divide – since it still exists and is, indeed, reinforced daily, – the Orthodox into ecumenists and resisters (1920, 1924-).” 


 This appears to be saying that the only real issue dividing Russian Orthodox Christians today is ecumenism, while the issue of sergianism “has been removed and no longer exists”. The present writer asked one of the Cyprianite bishops whether this was a correct interpretation. He conceded that this point was “not so well-phrased”, but tried to rescue the situation by saying that “the intent was the emphasise that, even if one takes the attitude that the Bolshevik regime has passed and that thus this motive for division has disappeared, there still remains the other prime motive, which is that which caused the division outside the range of communist influence, that is the issue of ecumenism”. 


 We shall have to wait for statements from other Cyprianite bishops – preferably from the whole Synod - to know whether this official statement of May 10/23 was imply “not so well-phrased” and should be reinterpreted in the way indicated above. Until then, however, we have to take the statement at its face value. And that means that, for the Cyprianites, sergianism is no longer an issue separating True Russian Christians from the Moscow Patriarchate. 


 But this is unacceptable for any True Russian Christian. The issue of sergianism remains as vital as ever. The MP, even after the fall of communism (if it has truly fallen, which seems extremely debatable), still remains a creation of Soviet power, and therefore extra-ecclesiastical and even anti-ecclesiastical in its origin. It supports the neo-Soviet regime of Putin, is headed by KGB agents and in general has not changed its attitude to the collective antichrist that gave it birth. It is, therefore, not only the question of ecumenism that divides all True Russian Christians from the Soviet church. In fact, sergianism is still more fundamental than ecumenism, for it was because of its sergianist submission to the Bolsheviks that the MP joined the ecumenical movement in 1961, and it is because of its continued sergianism to the neo-Soviet regime of Putin that it remains in the ecumenical movement now. 


 In view of this, those Russian groups who are being courted by the Cyprianites should consider the following questions:  

How can we benefit from union with a Church that officially accepts the Moscow Patriarchate as being within the True Church?
How can we benefit from union with a Church which conducts such a fierce, and fiercely personal, war against the True Orthodox Church of Greece, whose only major canonical (as opposed to personal) “sin”, in its eyes, lies in the TOC’s categorical rejection of World Orthodoxy as being outside the Church?
How can we benefit from union with a Church that regards the issues of communism and sergianism as being out-of-date, so that the only real issue that separates it from the Moscow Patriarchate is that of ecumenism?

Vladimir Moss.

June 22 / July 5, 2007.

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Encouragement can be drawn from Rdr. Vladimir Moss's seemingly growing resolve to openly declare the ecclesiology of the Kyprianites to be manifestly heretical.

However, if the Kyprianite ecclesiology is unorthodox (verily so), then why does Rdr. Vladimir refer to a "fall of ROCOR into heresy and schism on May 17, 2007"?

The ROCOR Sobor in 1994 officially declared the Kyprianite ecclesiology to be her own, falling under her own anathema, as the ROCOR bishop Gregory Grabbe stated at the time.

It seems more fitting to say that the "fall of ROCOR into heresy" originally took place in 1994, with her official statement that the Kyprianite group:

"adheres wholly to the exact same ecclesiological and dogmatic principles as our Russian Church Outside Russia"

Glory and thanksgiving be to God, the synod of the venerable Met. Vitaly († 2006) officially repudiated this communion and false ecclesiology in late 2001.
http://www.rocor-v.com/rocor/rescyp.html

With sorrow, it must be noted that the Lavrites continue to openly preach this heresy to this day.

A disservice is done to the Lavrites when the impression given to them is that their only sin was to enter into communion (rather subjection) to that pseudo-ecclesiastical organization self-styled "The Russian Orthodox Church".

Truly, the Lavrites themselves departed from the Church more than a dozen years ago.

Even had she not subjected herself to the illicit and unseemly union with the so-called "Moscow Patriarchate", she still would not be Orthodox in her confession.

"They who are of the Church, are of the truth; and they who are not of the truth, are not of the Church of Christ." --St. Gregory Palamas

"As for all those who pretend to confess the sound Orthodox Faith, but are in communion with people who hold a different opinion, if they are forewarned and still remain stubborn, you must not only not be in communion with them, but you must not even call them brothers." --St. Basil the Great

"Submit not yourselves to monastics, nor to presbyters, who teach lawless things and evilly propound them. And why do I say only monastics or presbyters? Follow not even after bishops who guilefully exhort you to do and say and believe things that are not profitable. What pious man will keep silence, or who will remain altogether at peace? For silence means consent. Oftentimes war is known to be praiseworthy, and a battle proves to be better than a peace that harms the soul. For it is better to separate ourselves from them who do not believe aright than to follow them in evil concord, and by our union with them separate ourselves from God." --Saint Meletius the Confessor

"Is the shepherd a heretic? Then he is a wolf, and it will be needful to flee and leap away from him, and not be deceived into approaching him, even if he appears to be fawning gently. Avoid communion and intercourse with him as snake’s poison: for fish are caught with hook and bait, while an evil intercourse, which contains the poison of heresy concealed therein, has captured many of the more simpleminded who came close and expected to suffer no harm. Wherefore it is fitting to avoid such men with all our might. Is the shepherd orthodox, does he bear the seal of piety, does he have none of the heretical crew trailing after him? Then submit to him, since he presides in the likeness of Christ. Thou doest honour not to him, if thou doest it with all thy soul: Christ receives it. Do not meddle in other matters. God is their examiner; leave the judgment to Him. Do thou, however, show him obedience and a pure disposition in accordance with thy love of Christ." --St. Photius the Great

"As we walk the unerring and life-bringing path, let us pluck out the eye that scandalizes us--not the physical eye, but the noetic one. For example, if a bishop or a presbyter, who are the eyes of the Church, conduct themselves in an evil manner and scandalize the people, they must be plucked out. For it is more profitable to gather in a house of prayer without them, than to be cast together with them, as it were with Annas and Caiaphas, into the gehenna of fire." --St. Athanasius the Great

"Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves." What then (you say), when he is wicked should we obey? Wicked? In what sense? If indeed in regard to Faith, flee and avoid him; not only if he be a man, but even if he be an angel come down from Heaven; but if in regard to life, be not over-curious. --St. John Chrysostom

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Re: A reply to a Kyprianite attack upon the Church of Christ

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THE CYPRIANITES, THE TIKHONITES AND BISHOP AGATHANGELUS

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 The overtures to the former group would seem to be doomed since on November 7/20, 2005 Metropolitan Cyprian, having received Igumen George (Pukhaev) from the Tikhonites in 2003, consecrated him as Bishop of Alania, with his see in Tskhinval, Osetia. [b]The Tikhonites are unlikely to take kindly to this “poaching”, especially since it took place on the canonical territory of the Russian Church, where they consider the Greek Old Calendarists to have no jurisdiction.[/b] Moreover, the Tikhonite ecclesiology in relation to the Moscow Patriarchate and World Orthodoxy is stricter than that of the Cyprianites.  

Vladimir Moss.

June 22 / July 5, 2007.

Ossetia is a Georgian territory who seceded thanks to Russian military help. Ossetia is not Russian territory but Georgian one, Georgian autocephaly was unduelly and illegally abolished when Russian illegally annexed the Georgian states in 1801. Georgian autocephaly was restablished in 1917 or 1918 but one must remember it dates back the first centuries of Christian history and was given by the Antioch patriarchate.

Priidite, poklonimsja i pripadem ko Hristu.

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