Orthodox Church, Pope to Resume Dialogue

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Orthodox Church, Pope to Resume Dialogue

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June 30, 2005
Orthodox Church, Pope to Resume Dialogue
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 12:57 p.m. ET

VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Visiting Orthodox leaders told Pope Benedict XVI on Thursday that theological dialogue can resume soon, and the pontiff urged both sides to apply new vigor to efforts to overcome their differences.

Benedict received several top churchmen who were sent by Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I, the spiritual leader of the world's 200 million Orthodox, for Wednesday's Mass in St. Peter's Basilica to mark the feast day of Sts. Peter and Paul.

Delegation leader Metropolitan John of Pergamon told the pontiff that Orthodox churches had agreed to nominate two delegates to the international commission for theological dialogue between the two churches.

''This will allow the resumption of theological dialogue in the near future, concentrating on crucial ... themes, and in particular on the primacy'' of the pope, he told Benedict in an address.

The two churches split in 1054 over several questions, including the primacy issue. More recently, relations have become tense by Orthodox charges of aggressive Catholic missionary work in eastern Europe, and by property disputes.

Theological dialogue was interrupted four years ago. Exactly a year ago, Pope John Paul II and Bartholomew stressed the need to resume the dialogue aimed at achieving unity.

Benedict told the delegation that so far the ''process of theological and historic clarification ... has already borne appreciable fruit.''

Benedict seemed eager to seize on his predecessor's enthusiasm for overcoming differences with the Orthodox.

''We feel the need to unite forces and not spare energies so that the official theological dialogue, begun in 1980 between the Catholic church and the Orthodox churches together, resume with renewed vigor,'' Benedict said.

The commission was announced in 1979 when John Paul paid a call at the patriarchate's headquarters in Istanbul, Turkey, a visit early in his papacy that marked his determination to improve relations.

The tensions that flared after the downfall of Communist regimes in eastern Europe in the last 15 years prevented John Paul from realizing his dream of visiting Russia.

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I think welcoming our good Catholic friends into Orthodoxy might be a good thing. I can't see it happening in our life time.

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When you have two roosters in the hen house, do you think they are in the mindset of becoming submissive to the other? A fox will come in and destroy them both, then he will devour everything. Stop focusing on the roosters and beware of the fox.

Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. (Ps. 50)

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joasia wrote:

When you have two roosters in the hen house, do you think they are in the mindset of becoming submissive to the other? A fox will come in and destroy them both, then he will devour everything. Stop focusing on the roosters and beware of the fox.

Joasia not exactly sure what you mean here. When some one comes into our Orthodox Church do we look at them with a mindful eye and think to ourselves "what are they doing here". I would hope not. I am in no way saying we should start brushing up on our Latin, but my take is, this is Christ's Church and we should follow his direction and not look at the glass as half empty.

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SouthernOrthodox,

I'm talking about the hierarchs who will make the decisions. The pope will not become submissive to the patriarchate and vice versa. I'm not talking about the simple folk that come into the Orthodox church....I was one of them.

But, you have to realize that this is a battlefield for them. They are trying to get the other to submit and it won't happen. The pride is too deep. So a third source of power will come in and take over the religious war between the catholics and Orthodox. At least with these two men. Those hierarchs that have seperated will stay far away. They have other battles to fight.

If we were all in communion with God then we would all have the same goal(through the unity of the Holy Spirit), but the fact that there are 2000 denominations of Christianity, shows that we have allowed ourselves to become seperate from God and that these hierarchs are acting out of their own whims of pride or some agenda that they are following.

Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. (Ps. 50)

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Orthodox patriarch invites Pope Benedict XVI to Turkey

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From Monsters and Critics.com

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Orthodox patriarch invites Pope Benedict XVI to Turkey
By DPA
Jul 5, 2005, 19:00 GMT

Istanbul - The Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, Bartholomew I, invited Pope Benedict XVI to visit Turkey in November but the exact date has yet to be set, the Turkish daily Milliyet reported Tuesday.

Bartholomew wanted to discuss church unity, world peace and especially Turkey\'s bid to access the European Union with the leader of the Catholic church.

Bartholomew heads the Ecumenical Christendom with about 350 million faithful.

\"If the pope comes in November, I\'ll take him to Cappadocia,\" the daily quoted Bartholomew as saying.

Cappadocia lies within the triangle of Nevsehir, Aksaray and Kayseri in central Turkey, and was once an early Christian centre in Asia Minor.

The unusual volcanic-like landscape with numerous cave churches attracts thousands of tourists every year.

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