If you are like me, and are opposed to ecumenism but are turned off by polemics and the hyperbole of a lot of the anti-ecumenists, you will find this article by an OCA priest against ecumenism to be refreshing. He shows why the Orthodox should pull out of the ecumenical movement solely based on discussions of WCC statements. An excellent piece.
http://www.thechristianactivist.com/vol9/V9Ecumen.htm
Anastasios
Disclaimer: Many older posts were made before my baptism and thus may not reflect an Orthodox point of view.
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Any thing that comes from the OCA is lip service. While I was in boot camp the OCA Priest communed a Coptic Monophysite every sunday during our 2nd month of boot camp. He said he had permission from the Greek Orthodoxo Patriarchate of Alexandria to do so since the OCA and the Monophysites are "in communion" with each other. :ohvey:
How sad, I really am starting to wonder about the Orthodox Church today.
In Christ
Nektarios
What do you mean "anything that comes out of the OCA"? Did you read the article? Is the OCA a monolithic agent? This priest writes an article against ecumenism and you condemn it. Amazing.
Anastasios
Disclaimer: Many older posts were made before my baptism and thus may not reflect an Orthodox point of view.
Please do not message me with questions about the forum or moderation requests. Jonathan Gress (jgress) will be able to assist you.
Please note that I do not subscribe to "Old Calendar Ecumenism" and believe that only the Synod of Archbishop Kallinikos is the canonical GOC of Greece. I do believe, however, that we can break down barriers and misunderstandings through prayer and discussion on forums such as this one.
Well the simple solution Nektarios would be for you to join a traditionalist Orthodox Church.
Anastasios
Disclaimer: Many older posts were made before my baptism and thus may not reflect an Orthodox point of view.
Please do not message me with questions about the forum or moderation requests. Jonathan Gress (jgress) will be able to assist you.
Please note that I do not subscribe to "Old Calendar Ecumenism" and believe that only the Synod of Archbishop Kallinikos is the canonical GOC of Greece. I do believe, however, that we can break down barriers and misunderstandings through prayer and discussion on forums such as this one.
Nektarios,
Weren't you the one who was defending the Antiochians (whom I expect you are still affiliated with?) a few months ago for the exact same thing? Which is worse, a priest communing non-chalcedonians (the OCA situation you mention), or an entire jurisdiction publically and via written statements officially saying it's ok to do so (Antiochians)? I don't mean to slam the Antiochians here, I'm simply trying to figure out what your thinking is, since it comes across as inconsistent. If I remember correctly, back in the day you were saying that what one priest or bishop does, does not invalidate the entire jurisdiction? I also seem to remember that even then, you had major problems with the OCA (it struck me as odd that you defended the Antiochians with such gusto, but didn't bat an eyelash at criticizing the OCA)? You remind me of me, over the past few years. 
Anastasios,
I thought the article was very good. Of course the reason why it was not polemical was because it addressed ecumenism as if it were true ecumenism, and not really syncretism. I believe the question the article was asking, "why do we persist (in ecumenism) when it is failing", could be easily answered if it did breach the subject of syncretism. Clearly ecumenism is largley just a front, a facade, so I did finish thinking something very significant was missing.
Just my thoughts.