The OCA

[OrthodoxyOrDeath]

Nevski,

So you have no significant response to this official document, which espouses an ecclesiastical heresy, except your own opinion? And this opinion has not been credited with a single example showing anyone at all in the OCA who does not accept this document and what it has to say.

Very well.

[Nevski]

So in other words Nevski, you have no significant response to this official document, except your own opinion?

Which official document?

[尼古拉前执事]

So in other words Nevski, you have no significant response to this official document, except your own opinion?

Which official document?

I think he means this one:
http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/documen ... erican.htm

[OrthodoxyOrDeath]

Daniel,

Those are some very interesting questions and comments on the OCA website.

I especially find disturbing the one where Matusiak says, "It is indeed possible for a Catholic to marry in the Orthodox Church without converting..."

This is the first time I heard a non-Orthodox can receive a Mystery of the Church. But I guess since they can be "baptized" outside the church, I guess this logically follows.

[Nevski]

Asking OOD once more before I sign off tonight:

http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/documen ... erican.htm

Is that an official OCA document?

[OrthodoxyOrDeath]

Daniel,

Funny thing, in my last post I qouted Matusiak saying that a Latin can receive a Mystery of marriage in an Orthodox church without converting.

Then I read this...

"In the Orthodox Church it is not permitted for an Orthodox Christian to be married to an individual who has not been baptized, regardless of whether they are of the Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, or other faith. "

http://oca.org/pages/orth_chri/Q-and-A_ ... stian.html

So in other words, he believes, as all OCA priests I have ever met or heard speak on the subject, Latin heretics are baptized already. Simple logic indeed.

I guess Nevski should now take the matter up with the OCA's OFFICIAL website.

[Nevski]

Daniel,

Funny thing, in my last post I qouted Matusiak saying that a Latin can receive a Mystery of marriage in an Orthodox church without converting.

Then I read this...

"In the Orthodox Church it is not permitted for an Orthodox Christian to be married to an individual who has not been baptized, regardless of whether they are of the Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, or other faith. "

http://oca.org/pages/orth_chri/Q-and-A_ ... stian.html

So in other words, he believes, as all OCA priests I have ever met or heard speak on the subject, Latin heretics are baptized already. Simple logic indeed.

I guess Nevski should now take the matter up with the OCA's OFFICIAL website.

Poor logic again, OOD. It does not logically follow from the fact that Catholics may wed Orthodox without converting that their baptism is "vaild" in the sense you so desperately want it to mean. Your logic may be "simple," and that is the problem, for in being "simple" it is not sound.

Care to try again?