GOARC teaches us on the Aerial Tollhouse

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Re: GOARC teaches us on the Aerial Tollhouse

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Unseen.Warfare wrote: Sun 6 October 2024 12:42 am

The Departure of the Soul, has around 100 pages making the case that Mr. Puhalo altered icons, purposely mistranslated ancient texts, and pulled passages out of context in order to “prove” the fathers of the church did not support toll houses.

I know people are wilfully ignorant to the extent that they purposely ignore what the saints say in favour of their own feelings. What I did not know about were the forgeries.

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eish wrote: Sun 6 October 2024 12:49 am
Unseen.Warfare wrote: Sun 6 October 2024 12:42 am

The Departure of the Soul, has around 100 pages making the case that Mr. Puhalo altered icons, purposely mistranslated ancient texts, and pulled passages out of context in order to “prove” the fathers of the church did not support toll houses.

I know people are wilfully ignorant to the extent that they purposely ignore what the saints say in favour of their own feelings. What I did not know about were the forgeries.

He’s not the only one who did this either. Another well known priest also did this and many more things to disprove the Tollhouses. He wrote a paper “refuting the tollhouses” and it’s just packed full of lies. They consistently say tollhouse doctrine teaches the demons judge the soul. That’s not true. The demons accuse the soul. It’s a sleight of hand. If you type in the keyword “Tollhouses” in Fr. Seraphim Rose’s letters you’ll find out more about that debate.

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Re: GOARC teaches us on the Aerial Tollhouse

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NektariosLopez wrote: Fri 4 October 2024 12:02 pm
eish wrote: Thu 3 October 2024 5:03 pm

I'm scared to click on GOARCH teaching doctrine. Is it patristic?

I posted it in heterodox sub for a good reason. 😂
The priest is saying it is practically a metaphor. Interestingly, people in comments are asking if he’s read the St Anthony Monastary Tome on the the ATHs

Puhalo says it’s a metaphor and in the same breath claims it’s from Gnostic origin. So, which one is it you know.

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Re: GOARC teaches us on the Aerial Tollhouse

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Unseen.Warfare wrote: Sun 6 October 2024 1:15 am
NektariosLopez wrote: Fri 4 October 2024 12:02 pm
eish wrote: Thu 3 October 2024 5:03 pm

I'm scared to click on GOARCH teaching doctrine. Is it patristic?

I posted it in heterodox sub for a good reason. 😂
The priest is saying it is practically a metaphor. Interestingly, people in comments are asking if he’s read the St Anthony Monastary Tome on the the ATHs

Puhalo says it’s a metaphor and in the same breath claims it’s from Gnostic origin. So, which one is it you know.

Perhaps I misspoke. The GOARC priest says it’s a metaphor, but he means it in the same way that Protestants believe that the Eucharist is strictly symbolic/metaphorical language in the Gospel of St John chapter 6.
Is that how Puhalo means it as well?

I would agree that the Tollhouses are metaphorical but I’m taking it that it’s rather an analogy since we they’re not literally tollhouses, but the GOARC priest tries to use the strawman of a “literal tollhouse” to argue against the ATH, as one point of contention. It seems like when we speak about the Divine Latter or calling the Theotokos the “Ark” or “Throne” and other metaphorical language doesn’t negate the reality of who she is or other spiritual understandings from the saints.

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