The real holocaust of the 20th century

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The real holocaust of the 20th century

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The real holocaust of the 20th century: the killing of Orthodox Christians by communists in the Soviet Union

http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/28771192

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That was a very moving, disturbing and informative. I was especially surprised to learn of the extent of Nazi-Soviet collaboration, both military and in terms of internal repression.

However, I was disappointed by the complete absence of any discussion, or even mention, of the persecution of the Orthodox Church. Indeed, all religious issues were more or less ignored. Socialist tyranny, both Nazi and Soviet, was reduced to a question of persecuting certain races or classes. I don't think someone ignorant of the suffering of Orthodox Christians would learn anything new about it from watching this video. Since we already know that the majority of Soviet victims were Orthodox Christians, then we can interpret this video as in some sense about them, but those outside will not know this. Since the maker of this film is Latvian, I suppose it's not surprising that he doesn't really care about this aspect of Soviet oppression, although for us it is the most important aspect.

Were there any films ever made about the persecution of the Orthodox Church in Soviet Russia? I find it hard to believe that White emigres would not have carried out projects like this, although perhaps they are only available in Russian.

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Yes, the Soviet holocaust is surely the best-kept secret in the history of the human race, thanks, in part, to the Moscow Patriarchate. When I have quoted statistics about the Soviet genocide in secular contexts people have almost always expressed surprise and skepticism about the astonishing numbers. And how many movies, films, documentaries, etc., have ever been made about the Soviet anti-Christian genocide during the past half century-- which is far and away the worst genocide in history? I cannot think of a single film of this nature that has ever achieved any notoriety in America.

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That's because Jews produce the vast majority of all the media in this country, and it was a group of antichrist Jews that were behind the Bolshevik reign of terror. Naturally, they do not want to highlight their involvement in these vicious crimes against humanity, so they do not make films which might lead to people becoming aware of their involvement.

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Well, Cyprian, I think there is an element of truth in what you say. The video reflects this Jewish influence to some extent, for instance in the way Trotsky is presented as a victim, whereas in reality both Trotsky and Stalin were mass murdering criminals. Since Trotsky ended up a victim of Stalin, however, he is exonerated by that film. Also, the way they try to portray Stalin as an anti-Semite, as if Bolshevism were simply a variant of Nazism. Perhaps in his later years Stalin became anti-Semitic, but I have done some reading on this and there is very little evidence that Stalin expressed any anti-Semitic views before or during World War II. The Great Purges of the late 1930s, in which Stalin eliminated all of the old Communist Party members (or those members whom he couldn't absolutely trust), were not aimed specifically at Jews (as this film tries to portray), although since the old guard of the Party happened to have so many Jewish members, the Purges did result in a significant Russification of the Party. The fact that the Foreign Ministry under Litvinov was called the "synagogue" only testifies to the enormous preponderance of Jews in at least some parts of the Communist state apparatus.

Take Kaganovich. Notice how the film completely fails to mention his Jewishness, although later they make so much of Stalin's supposed anti-Semitism. Kaganovich was one of the chief architects of the Ukrainian terror famine, although the film focuses on the role of the Gentile Molotov. Kaganovich was also untouched by the Purges, and remained in Stalin's favor until the latter's death.

It's also worth noting that the fact that many Jews were the victims of Communism is not at all incompatible with a large Jewish influence in the Communist party. Revolutionaries in general, and Jewish revolutionaries in particular, are famously prone to sacrificing their own people for the sake of the revolution. Solzhenitsyn documents a lot of this in his discussion of the pogroms of 1903-1906: Jewish revolutionary agitators would deliberately provoke anti-Semitic riots in order to foment civil strife, since revolution could only come about during a state of anarchy. Later on, Jewish Red Army commanders like Trotsky were not above burning synagogues and executing rabbis as part of their anti-religious agenda (though their fury was usually focused on the Church). For their part, Zionist activists were and are famous for collaborating with anti-Semitic regimes, whether the Nazis or Arab fascists, in enabling the emigration of Jewish populations so as to encourage the Jewish settlement of Palestine.

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Molotov's wife Perl/Polina was a radical Jewess:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polina_Zhemchuzhina

Allow me to say a few words word about this novel term "anti-Semitic," if you please. The misappropriation of this term by the Jews, which is constantly being bandied about in our time, avails them nothing. For enlightened Christians recognize that these counterfeits have no kinship with the patriarchs Abraham or Shem.

Blessed Theodoret of Cyrus, Commentary on Ezekiel:

Just as this divinely-inspired man compared these people in their savagery and evil living to poisonous animals, so here as well the Lord God through the prophet refers to their Canaanite roots — Amorite father, Hittite mother, and in short their foreign origins — whose impiety they imitated, and duly had kinship with them, tarred with the same brush as these people on the basis of their behavior. It was quite sufficient to make an impression on them, not only on account of the lawlessness of these very nations at that time but also on account of their ignoble origins: Canaan was object of curses, and condemned to servitude by his forefather Noah. This is the one from whom you are descended, he is saying, and you have no kinship with Abraham and Shem; by repudiating their godliness you also forfeited kinship itself with them, and were completely deprived of that noble lineage.

In accordance with this understanding, prophet Daniel cried out against the two elders who attempted to seduce Susanna: "You offspring of Canaan and not of Judah!" (Dan 13.47)

But even were we to divert our attention away from the profitable spiritual understanding, and fell into disputes about carnal reckonings, it should be noted that the vast proportion of Jews account themselves to be "Ashke-nazi", or German Jews.

Ashkenazi Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews

Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. (Gen 10:1-3)

Scripture records Ashkenaz as the son of Gomer, who in turn was son of Japheth, rather than Shem! So these impostors, who propagate countless fables and endless genealogies, by their own feeble reckoning, exclude themselves from the genealogy of Sem, disqualifying themselves from any carnal claims to being accounted "Semites".

Jesus Christ, according to the flesh, descended from Abraham and Sem, as is recorded in the genealogy contained in the third chapter of St. Luke's gospel. (cf. Luke 3.36)

Now, it is commonly understood that the Greek word "anti" means "opposed to" or "against". But it also means "instead of" or "in place of," such as in the word antidoron (i.e. "instead of the gifts").

The Jews oppose Christ, the true descendant of Sem, and Christians, the spiritual children of Abraham and Sem, or true Semites. Furthermore, they seek to place themselves "instead of" or "in place of" the rightful place of Christans as Semites.

So if any group deserves to be labeled "anti-Semitic," it is none other than the ancient enemies of the Gospel, that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter, attempting to turn truth upside down.

Woe unto them, hypocrites!

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Thank you for this link. I am going to share this.

"Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, and today, and for ever." ( Heb.13:8 )

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