Basis on Which Economy May Be Used in Reception of Converts

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Basis on Which Economy May Be Used in Reception of Converts

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Here is another important article for discussion.

[quote]The Basis on Which Economy May Be Used in the Reception of Converts

By Metropolitan Anthony (Khrapovitsky)

The Basis On Which Economy May be Used in the Reception of Converts By Metropolitan Anthony (Khrapovitsky) The Canons which deal with the relation of bishops, and in general of all the children of the Church, to those outside her, are the following: Apostolic Nos. 10, 12, 45, 46 and 65; Conciliar, 1st Ecumenica, Nos. 8 and 19; 2nd Ecumenical, No. 7; 60th Ecumenical, no. 95; Laodicea, Nos 7, 8 and 33; Carthage, Nos. 68 and 79

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very interesting ...

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but I'm still confused. Let's take me for example. At age eight I was baptized in a Southern Baptist church and I think the procedure was immersed once in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (I need to find out for sure from my Mom). I'm sure I was dunked only once but not so sure about what was said by the preacher since I was under the water part of the time and I really wasn't paying attention to that so much as to keep from drowning. So now I am a catechumen and soon to be chrismated. Should I also be baptized?

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Check with your priest as he will give better guidance than this article.

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"Concerning the Baptism of Heretics" From the SOBO

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Thanks to the Orthodox-Synod List, I post this from Living Orthodoxy, #113:

FROM THE DECREES OF THE SOBOR OF BISHOPS OF THE ROCA, SEPTEMBER 1971 CONCERNING THE BAPTISM OF HERETICS (SEPT. 15/28)

On the question of the baptism of heretics who accept Orthodoxy, the following decree was adopted:

The Holy church has believed from of old that there can be only one true baptism, namely that which is performed in her bosom: One, Lord, one faith, one baptism (Eph. 4:5). In the Symbol of Faith there is also confessed "one baptism," and the 46th Canon of the Holy Apostles directs: "A bishop or a presbyter who has accepted (i.e., acknowledges) the baptism or the sacrifice of heretics, we command to be deposed."

However, when the zeal of any heretics in their battle against the Church has weakened and when there was a question of a mass conversion of them to Orthodoxy, the Church, to facilitate their union, has received them into her bosom in a different way....

St. Basil the Great, and through his words an Ecumenical Council [the Sixth], while establishing the principle that outside the Holy Orthodox Church there is no true baptism, allows, out of pastoral condescension, which is called "economy," the reception of certain heretics and schismatics without a new baptism. And in accordance with such a principle, the Ecumenical Councils permitted the reception of heretics in various ways, in accordance with the degree of the weakening of the heretics' enmity against the Orthodox Church.

In the Rudder [Book of Canons] the following explanation of Timothy of Alexandria is given. To the question: "Why do we not baptize heretics who convert to the Catholic Church?" he replies: "If we did this, a man would not soon convert from heresy, being ashamed of a second baptism; thus by the laying on of the priests'hands and prayer, the Holy Spirit descends, as the Acts of the Holy Apostles testifies."

With regard to Roman Catholics and those Protestants who claim to preserve baptism as a sacrament (for example, the Lutherans), in Russia since the time of Peter I the practice was introduced of receiving them without baptism, through a renunciation of heresy and the chrismation of Protestants and unconfirmed Catholics. Before Peter, Catholics were baptized in Russia. In Greece, the practice has also varied, but almost 300 years ago, after a certain interruption the practice of baptizing converts from Catholicism and Protestantism was reintroduced. Those received in any other way have (sometimes) not been recognized in Greece as Orthodox. In many cases such children of our Russian Church were not even admitted to Holy Communion.

Having in view this circumstance and also the current growth of the ecumenist heresy, which attempts completely to erase the difference between Orthodoxy and any heresy so that the Moscow Patriarchate, notwithstanding the holy canons, has even issued a decree permitting Roman Catholics to receive communion (in certain cases) the Sobor of Bishops acknowledges the necessity of introducing a stricter practice, i.e., to baptize all heretics who come to the Church only in case of necessity and with the permission of the bishop allowing, for reasons of economy or pastoral condescension, any other practice with regard to certain persons i.e., the reception into the Church of Roman Catholics and those Protestants baptized in the name of the Holy Trinity, through a repudiation of heresy and chrismation.

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I would say that I agree that you would want to speak to your priest. If you want to be Baptized, I am sure he would do so. Plus that way you would receive an Orthodox Godfather.

It was the option I was going to choose, were it up to me, but it wasn't, as Baptism was required for me even as coming from a Uniate Catholic Church.

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