Jean-Serge wrote:There is denim and denim... You can be very smart in denim too, with a jacket and shirt for men for instance. Moreover, what is casual and not changes with time. It is sometimes delicate to say things to people who have unconvenient outfits. Correction must be discrete, with love, not humiliating, done by the right person and at the right time etc. Some people are really bad at correction. More generally speaking, even among the true orthodox, there are many formal problems that diminish the credibility of the stance because these are exactly the things that can be seen in world orthodoxy. I think about :
- pews and chair (typically Greek)
- unveiled ladies
- westernized icons
- westernized music (typically Russian)
Maybe other things... It is difficult to denounce the modernism of world orthodoxy having succumbed in diverse ways in the same mistakes
Most people should not be correcting others for their lack of dress. In fact, to correct people could be a sin as
the outfit they are wearing could well be their only one and their best one if they are poor.
There are even some Orthodox Christian monks who wear a monastic garb made of denim or who wear patched denim. Beggars cannot be picky.
Yiayias who tell women to wear veils before entering the Church often humiliate these women.
Yet, people who do not wear a veil often endure rude rubbernecked people.
Honestly, I do not know what is worse: the yiayias or the rubbernecked people.
We should be focusing on God, not on what our neighbor is wearing or not wearing.
I only mentioned the adult chaperones because they obviously have the means to afford modest dress, but instead have chosen to wear very expensive modern immodest fashions. Yes, denim can be extremely expensive, especially brand labels. Thus, knowingly or unknowingly, these ladies can give bad example and scandalize others.