Renaissance: Sculptures, Worship of Man, Perversions, and -isms.

[jdigrande]

The title of this thread starts with the "Renaissance" and ends with "ism."

It also has the word "perversion in it."

What is the greatest perversion of the Renaissance?

I choose the period of time between 1437 and 1453 and the guilty all with uncreated grace: the so called Orthodox.

So called because they put Hellenism, Thomas Aquinas, Barlaam the Calabrian and John Beccus (both heretics) and the Venetian heretical rapist of St. Constantinoplis (Dandolo) before Orthodoxy from long before the time they got on the boat to Venice (700 of them) escorted by heretical Venetian warships.

You can only pervert what is holy and sacred to begin with. Who brought the 8th Council of 879, the Tomos of 1285, 1341 and 51 on the boat? Only St. Mark of Ephesus.

Christ and the Apostles had to deal with one Judas Iscariot. On the boat were 699 Judas's and one saint.

They left Hagia Sophia with the Emperor in 1437. As the incense rose to the 2nd floor blessing the journey, the rancid human remains of the heretical rapist Dandolo still occupied the place of honor on the 2nd royal floor of Hagia Sophia like Lenin occupies Red Square today but the big difference is that Dandolo was inside Hagia Sophia and Lenin is still for a moment outside of it.

Imagine Lenin inside the Cathedral of the Dormition today (and perhaps the MP wants to move both Lenin and Stalin inside in the future)?

St Mark's tag team theological wrestler (appointed by the Emperor and Patriarch) was a Thomist Judas named Met. Bessarion. So it was 699 plus the Dominicans plus the Pope to 1 for two years.

St. Mark did his best. The Pope was slowly starving the Orthodox out. But if you were talking about Hellensim, then you were part of the in crowd both in Ferrara and Florence.

And when the "fateful" (fate is a Hellenistic heresy) moment came and St. Mark asked to unfurl the theological anathemas of 879, 1285, 1341 and 1351 and in effect tear the heresies of the Latins to shreds, two more Judas's (the Patriarch and Emperor) ordered him to cease and desist. In effect to put away the theological hesychastic nuclear option and run up the white flag.

And like I said in another post on this subject: He obeyed like so many other hierarchs in the 20th century, some of which were and are saints.

Lets for a moment imagine him not obeying. Chances are when he unfurled the banners of our faith at the next session, both the Dominicans and especially the Hellenistic "Orthodox" would have torn him to shreds physically. They would have shouted, "crucify him." And the Dominicans (along with the Pope) who were absolute experts at torture and crucifixion of heretics would have been only too happy to concur.

St. Mark did not utter a word for the rest of the Council. In many ways he acted like Christ before Herod, Pilate and Caiphas.

When he refused to sign, the Pope made a huge mistake by not burning him at the stake or crucifying him along with the Hellenistic Renaissance former Orthodox bishops and Emperor. It was such a pitiful scene to the arrogant latins, that they just let the whole mob slink away to the ships with their silent metropolitan of Ephesus.

I am sure of one thing though. St. Mark was praying without ceasing all the way home.

He was needed at home so the Trinity, St Gregory of Cyprus, Photius the Great, St. Gregory Palamas, the Theotokos and an army of angels protected him from the Dominicans and Hellenic Renaissance bishops on the Venetian boats. The bishops got off the boats and were asked in the Great City what happened. They said, "we betrayed the faith."

That was a lie. First of all the word "betrayed" is in the past tense. These heretics actually continued to betray the faith all the way until "Black Tuesday" May 29th,1453.

Second of all one of them did not betray the faith: St. Mark of Ephesus. If this rotten, heretical world ever becomes Orthodox again, St, Marks Square and Church in Venice should be named for two Marks and not one. He was absolutely alone for 2 years and surrounded by heretical jackals and vultures.

I put Black Tuesday in quotes for a reason. The night before the Turk took over, the last liturgy in Hagia Sophia was an heretical one with the Filioque chanted. The rancid Venetian remains of Dandolo was still interred in its place of honor. Most of the soldiers who would fight and die the next day were heretics. Genoans, Pisans, Venetians from their respective commercial ghettos filled Hagia Sophia. The Emperor was an heretic. So was the patriarch.

I remember a photo in National Geographic around the time of my conversion. It was a Romanian nun walking quickly past a fresco on the side of a Romanian monastery commemorating Black Tuesday, May 29, 1453.

She had her head down and embodied both the feelings of anger and sorrow at such a scene to her right. It took many years for me to realize that this
ecumenical NC nun who actually celebrates the Papal Gregorian Pascha with the Pope every year is every bit the heretic as the heretics that last night in Hagia Sophia. She was lamenting the death of Hellenism and that is all she was lamenting. She was also lamenting the death of the Filioque and the Latin stranglehold on the Great City.

And that is the last page on the greatest perversion of the Renaissance. Everything was expected of us from 1437-1453. Nothing was expected of the Latins. We had the uncreated grace of the sacraments and they had bread and wine. We had the sacrament of confession. They had the filthy lucre of of indulgences. We had all the cards, they had nothing, absolutely nothing.

We could have started out the Council with the acceptance of the 8th Council (with Pope John's blessing). They only could shut up and fold. Strike one

We could have started the council with "Thou Shalt Not Steal" presenting evidence like the Shroud Not Made With Human Hands and ending with the 4 horses of the Church of the Holy Apostles that was perched on St. Marks Heretical Church in Venice. They had to fold. Strike 2.

Strike three: our theological banners hammered through their thick skulls: 879, 1285, 1341, 1351. Case closed. Strike Three.

And if the heretical Latins did not like unconditional theological surrender the the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church: then it would have been time to wipe the Florentine dust (Carrara marble dust) off their feet and march to their martyrdom in Florence, like Savanarola was to experience 50 plus years later or their martyrdom at the hands of the Turks.

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But as the Old Testament and New Testament ("Fear not small flock.") maintains: the Trinity One In Essence and Undivided always loves the underdog who puts their trust in Him and His Church alone. The great city might have been saved like it was in the 8th century by the Theotokos. God knows.

Now lets study the black clad Hellenistic Masonic Patriarchs who are in Bari today, surrounding the white clad Pope.

It is so easy to be a Monday morning quarterback and that is what history is for: to teach us about the present and the future.

First of all, lets study this heretical Argentinian Pope. He wants to canonize Pius 12. The most famous thing Pius the 12th did was to bless the building of a golf course on the top of 360,000 Serbian martyrs at Jasenovac in what is now known as Croatia. It was an attempt to cover the killing fields with green grass with 18 holes with Crusader flags in them.

Pius 12 made sure that the killers got out (Artukovic (Himmler of the Croats) to Ireland and then to LA along with a whole slew of Croatians to Argentina around the time that this Argentinian Pope was a boy. 400,000 Irish rose up to defend Artukovic and is quiet stay in the Emerald Isle until the US government led by the Kennedys/McCarthy got him a one way ticket to LA. where he died in "peace."

Then as time went on, the Popes (John, John Paul I/II and Benedict broke down a little bit: they said "only 40,000 Serbs were martyred at Jasenovac. And they still want to canonize the Crusader architects of this slaughter.

Well, who is right here? "only" 40,000 or 360,000?

And there is as great solution to this which kills two birds with one stone. Dig it up.

The Latins have a veritable army of papal archaeologists at their disposal in their web of ecumenical hellenistic universities (where one becomes an educated Renaisance man or woman) around the world. And the TOC can observe and carefully collect them (they are our relics- every one of them)?

Bless the heretical Monophositic Ethiopians in this alone: they dug into the earth toward the demons and Hell to build their great churches. They went on the attack. And the Latins can do the same if they so desire. So that when we get to the bottom of this debate we will have a pit on how deep, how many martyrs?- all of them can be enshrined around the church we will build (the TOC).

It is there that the Latins and their black clad Hellenistic Masonic Patriarchs will be confronted a second time. It was home court in 1437-39. Jasenovac is a neutral site. It is on Croatian territory but filled with Orthodox relics.

We would be very merciful to the heretical Latins to hold a council in such a place. It would also be a huge temptation for the Croat Crusaders to slaughter us again. It would be so easy.

Home court? Hagia Sophia, Church of the Holy Sepluchre, Solovki, St. Peters Square in the middle of the City of St. Peter, Kolyma?

Where was the most Orthodox blood spilled in history? I am related to Russos, Ross's, Rossini's, Romanos etc etc so I am not the one to decide. It is the last Tsar from the Romanov clan on the mother's side who will call the shots. My heart says Solovki. Why? It really is the Venice of the North.My parents are from islands so I am partial to islands because one can go to the sea quickly on a small island and feel small because we are small.

And the Pope was Lenin/Stalin's best friend from 1917-29. And I just like the Church of the Golgotha best. It is Russian. Not the heretical Italian designed churches in Moscow and Kiev. The old Kiev church of Hagia Sophia was great but the latins destroyed it later. But that church on Solovki is Russian. It is as bruiser of a church and what those walls have seen! Those walls will convict all that enter. And it is cold in winter. It is the home of the Orthodox like Green Bay is the home of the Packers...

But for now of course all this is just a pipe dream, the ravings of a half lunatic.

But look around the TOC churches that are on this site. Any ikons of the martyrs of Jasenovac? Any services in the Menaion for them? I think not. We have services for the martyrs of Sebaste (300?) but for the 360,000 at Jasenovac and 750,000 total during the last crusade? any ikons, any services?

Where are the elect Greeks, Russians, etc that populate this site in the main?

And that is the greatest perversion of the Hellenic Renaissance. We treasure the dime store demons of Romulus, Zeus and Athena more than the 750,000 dead in Serbia- our little southern slavic brothers to the west and north. Is it time to storm the Parthenon, time to write the services and stick our elect, Hellenic noses in the dust? Ashes to ashes, dust unto dust...

We think we are the elect and the rest of the world is full of Renaissance perverts? As my poor spiritual father, (St. Nektary Chernobyl) told me,

"Improve Or Go To Hell."

But it sounds much better in Russian.

[Maria]

In my studies of art, philosophy, theology, literature, and history, I was blessed to have professors who were not afraid to denounce the Renaissance for what it was: the worship of the creature, man, instead of the Creator.

At that time, my college was teaching a "core" curriculum using thematic topics that tied one course with another. We were encouraged to take history of art, philosophy, theology, literature, and world history which covered the same time line. Hence in our freshman year, it was primarily ancient history, while in our sophomore year, it was the study of the Medieval and Renaissance periods.

In Matins, just before the Divine Liturgy, a hymn reminds us that man fell for lie of the serpent in worshiping the creature instead of the Creator. I love attending Matins for this very reason. It keeps me spiritually grounded, so that my feet are planted humbly on the ground acknowledging my total dependence on God my Creator, while my mind is in heaven praising and thanking Him for saving me.

[jdigrande]

It was the Orthodox monk, Michael Psellos in the 11th century who began this rebirth of Greco-Roman humanism but it occurred not in Italy but the heart of Orthodoxy, Constantinople. His pupil was John Italos who was from Calabria and spoke Latin. They headed the philosophical school in Constantinople.
The Comneni Dynasty encouraged this return to Greco-Roman humanism along with doing all in its power to dominate the church and erase the symphony of powers between Patriarch and Emperor first posited by St. Justinian the Great.

It is good also to remember that both St. Justinian and Constantine were Romans of Slavic descent and not Greeks.

Who dominated this school in Constantinople over the period 1015-1437? It was the lovers of the Latin Church and Hellenism. This school opposed the Councils of 1285, 1341, 1351 either overtly or secretly. These humanists welcomed the Sack of Constantinople and Latin takeover of Constantinople in 1204 by the Venetian Dandolo.

These humanists got their books on Augustine, Aquinas, Anselm, Francis et al through the Latin commercial ghettos of Venice, Pisa, Genoa which dominated the docks around Hagia Sophia and the palace. They had their own Latin Churches both there and across the Golden Horn in Galatea. They recited the Creed with the Filioque there from the 11th century on under the gaze of the Orthodox Empire. The Venetian fleet protected the Empire and thus a Faustian bargain was struck with them in the 11th century- the century of schism.

Notice how the Papacy adopts the Filioque and throws out the 8th Council of St. Photius in 1016 and the Empire does nothing (which was Macadonian still).

Where was the edict of excommunication on the part of the Orthodox? Why not?

Of course the answer is simple: Excommunicating the Papacy and Western Europe meant excommunicating the Venetians and their trade and their naval fleet in 1016, long before the Norman invasion of England and the excommunication of 2nd Rome by 1st Rome in 1054.

It will be the demonic marriage of commercial/military alliance with the heretical Latin Venetians and northern Italian city states in general coupled with the Greek Hellenic lust to bring back Hellenism to 2nd Rome that gives birth to the Renaissance.

Even the Comneni Dynasty's desire to rule the Patriarchate during this period echoes the status of the Caesar Augustus and not St. Justinian the Great.

1204-57 was the period of total domination of Constantinople by the Latins and also matches the life of Thomas Aquinas. His books were brought there and translated.

In 1274 Mike Paleologus went to Lyons and signed the union with Rome. Thomas Aquinas died before reaching Lyons where he was scheduled to speak against the Greeks.

In 1285, the Papist Greek,John Beccus was opposed but to this day, the defender of Orthodoxy (St. Gregory of Cyprus) is not considered a saint by most of the TOC's on this site. Is a feast day proclaimed by most of the TOCS's on this site for him or the Council of Blachernae (1285)?

In 1341-51 this huge Latin and Humanist section of Constantinople opposed St. Gregory Palamas. Barlaam the Calabrian was the spokesman for the heretics but behind him lay many bishops, priests and the nobility.

So the soil was ripe both in Constantinople and Mystra for Plethon to write Liturgies to Zeus. Met. Bessarion hated 1285, 1341 and 1351 long before he got on the Venetian galley with Plethon bound for Florence in 1437. Both the Emperor and the Patriarch cared nothing for the two St. Gregory's (of Cyprus and Palamas) and put their money on Aquinas instead before they got on the Venetian galley for Florence.

It was these Greek Judas's along with Isidore of Russia who handed over the Church and Empire over to the latins at Florence.

St. Gennadius Scholarius who had read Thomas Aquinas was on the galley too but not as a bishop. Later he led the Church against the Latins after the passinig of St. Mark of Ephesus when he became Patriarch. He saved the Church being appointed by the Muslims.

So to lay the blame on the Latins for the perversions of the Renaissance (the return and domination of Greek and Roman humanism) is like the Jews in Babylon blaming the Babylonians for the takeover of Jerusalem. It was in reality the sins of both the Orthodox Christians and the Jews in the Old Testament that resulted in these captivities.

Christ said that the only miracle of the end times will be the miracle of Jonah.

First of all Jonah refused to preach to the Ninevites, threw himself into the sea and was swallowed by the whale.

And isn't that where we are now? Captive to World Orthodoxy, Papism, Jews, Masons, Communists, Hellenism et al?

We refused to preach to the latins for the last 800 years but most of all at Florence and we were thrown into a captivity ruled by the Latins and the Muslims.

We handed Hellenism to the Italians and Western Sicilians on a silver platter like Herod the Horrible handed the head of St. John the Baptist to his whore and her mother.

When Jonah repented inside the whale for three days- his captivity for his cowardice, he was regurgitated on the beach by the whale. He then went to preach at Nineveh.

Now Nineveh was a city that did not know "its right hand from its left."

And we TOC's look on Nineveh just like Jonah did. He wanted them destroyed by God despite his preaching and their fasting for 40 days. He wanted revenge even though it was his sin in the first place by not going to Nineveh to preach. He showed cowardice, disobedience and a hatred of the low class Ninevites like the TOC's on this site would exhibit if God ordered some bishop here to preach at Caesars Palace in Vegas (where they too don't know "their right hand from their left."

Vegas is too much for our All TOC And No Action Church (ATOCANAC). The city of Demon Athena is a much better venue for taking the beam out of our own eyes first. Maybe Rome, Mecca and Vegas is next but as the Fathers of the Church state: lets start with baby food first and move to meat later.

I repeat- Is it the City of the Theotokos (after her garden/Mount Athos is a short distance away) or the Hellenic city dedicated to the Demon of Reason, Athena? As the heretic Shakespeare would say in Hamlet, "that is the question."

Sign the petition and tart a referendum. Start preaching in church and in the polis. Get people to take sides.

Have the Demos vote. Lets say the Theotokos lose the vote 51/49%. Lenin had 5 % of the votes in Russia and still caused a revolution. Can we get 5% of the votes of the city with a thousand byzantine domes for the Theotokos?

And if that fails, charge the Acropolis at night. Occupy the Church of the Theotokos, exorcise it and hold Liturgy. Resupply the infantry with small Greek planes in dogfights with NATO warplanes. Have one of our TOC planes sky write our motto:

"Orthodoxy Or Death Where Is Thy Sting, Hell (enism) Where Is Thy Victory."

Run the Three Flags Up On Top of Our New Open Air Church:

Orthodoxy Or Death... Esphigmenou and St. John Chrysostom
I Am A Christian And I Will Not Betray My Faith (St. Peter)
"The gods Of The Pagans Are Demons." St.David and St. Athanasius The Great

Of course the heroic scene worthy of a mural for the ages could be marred by the TOC bishops and priests tearing each other apart piece by piece in the Church of the Theotokos as to who will be first hierarch.

As Christ said, "the first shall be last..."

This forum reminds me of cafe's in my college days. After a hard day of getting a Renaissance education, one withdraws to the coffee shop/cafe. Chess, tasty food jazz, blues, rock, utopian dreams of political and theological topics by people like me- knowing nothing and maybe having the courage to burn a draft card but never missing a meal for the revolution...

Scorn was heaped on the establishment like the TOC heap scorn on the Masonic, Latin, Communist, Jewish Ninevitic humanists.

We are the elect and they are the dammed.

Nuclear war and overpopulation is hovering over the humanist cafe like the Book of Revelations end hover over ours.

All TOC And No Action or Praxis as the Greeks like to say.

Too much to ask for?

How about starting small and amending The Rudder? Where is 879 (8th Council), 1285, 1341, 1351 and 1672 in the Rudder? Did the Northern Italians who published it in the 17th century edit out all those Orthodox Councils? Where are the services and feast days for these great councils in the Menaion?

Any TOC's on this site denote the Councils they adhere to on their websites and in their churches? I have seen one TOC do this.

Are we going to blame the Ninevites for the sorry condition of The Rudder? It seems to be The Rudder for a Venetian galley with a Venetian publishing house perched on the deck. Why don't we retake it?

The Hellenistic and Masonic Patriarchs at Bari with the Pope all believe in 7 Councils. They state that and so does the Rudder. Where the Rudder meets the road is 879 and St.Photius The Great.

ALL TOC AND NO ACTION
ALL TOC AND NO PRAXIS