Was Mary Sinless

Incognito1583 · Post by **Incognito1583** » Sat 19 July 2008 10:32 pm

Someone recently notified me that Orthodoxy believes the Theotokos was sinless. I've never heard this before. If this is true, how does Orthodoxy explain Romans 3:23?

"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." [Rom.3:23].

Incognito1583 · Post by **Incognito1583** » Mon 21 July 2008 8:47 pm

I can't believe no one knows the answer to this question.

GOCPriestMark · Post by **GOCPriestMark** » Mon 21 July 2008 9:19 pm

Incognito1583 wrote:
I can't believe no one knows the answer to this question.

Do you know the answer?
If so, then why try to bait folks with the question?
If not, then what authority will you accept to support the answer?

You've asked a number of serious questions here, and of their own good will folks have tried to answer as best as they can, but when they do, it seems to me, that you just argue with them, as if you knew the answer already and were just looking for a fight.

So, are you here to get answers and help along your orthodox path? Are you just lonely and looking for some attention? So far it looks to me that you have some deep problems, most likely coming from those who have taught you. The brand of 'orthodoxy' you espouse seems to be chasing you away from Orthodoxy - if you were well grounded, red flags would go up for you, but instead you keep spouting the same mis-guided 'stuff' and then, in the next breath, renoucing it all again.

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Having said that, I believe the Theotokos and mother of our God, is indeed sinless, not by nature, but by her choices in life, (her will). Otherwise, would our Lord Jesus Christ have deigned to become Incarnate within her?

If you believe otherwise, then, of what sin do you now accuse her?

Cyprian · Post by **Cyprian** » Mon 21 July 2008 9:44 pm

The Mother of God was conceived from seed in a natural manner; hence she was in no way exempt from participation in original or ancestral sin.

Incognito1583 · Post by **Incognito1583** » Mon 21 July 2008 11:19 pm

GOCPriestMark wrote:
Do you know the answer?

No.

GOCPriestMark wrote:
You've asked a number of serious questions here, and of their own good will folks have tried to answer as best as they can,

I must have missed that. All I've seen is condemning, judging, and possibly lying.

GOCPriestMark wrote:
Having said that, I believe the Theotokos and mother of our God, is indeed sinless, not by nature, but by her choices in life, (her will). Otherwise, would our Lord Jesus Christ have deigned to become Incarnate within her?

Thank you, but I asked what the postion of the Orthodox Church was. Or do they even have a position? And how do you account for Romans 3:23? "ALL have sinned."

joasia · Post by **joasia** » Tue 22 July 2008 8:11 pm

The teachings of the Orthodox Church is that The Theotokos was made sinless. But, I won't give you details. There are plenty of websites with indepth articles and also books that you can buy.

You do your own homework.