Gorbachev Dispels 'Closet Christian' Rumors; Says He is Athe

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Gorbachev Dispels 'Closet Christian' Rumors; Says He is Athe

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http://www.christianpost.com/article/20 ... theist.htm

Gorbachev Dispels 'Closet Christian' Rumors; Says He is Atheist
By
Ethan Cole
Christian Post Reporter
Mon, Mar.
24 2008 05:21 PM ET

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev made clear
this past weekend that he is an atheist after
European news agencies last week claimed that he
had confirmed his Christian faith during a visit
to the tomb of St. Francis of Assisi in Italy.

Gorbachev, the last communist leader of the
Soviet Union, confronted speculations that he had
been a closeted Christian during an interview
with the Russian news agency Interfax.

"Over the last few days some media have been
disseminating fantasies – I can't use any other
word – about my secret Catholicism, citing my
visit to the Sacro Convento friary, where the
remains of St.
Francis of Assisi lie," Gorbachev
said, according to an Interfax article posted Friday.

"To sum up and avoid any misunderstandings, let
me say that I have been and remain an atheist,” he stated.

Rumors for decades had circulated that Gorbachev
was a Christian after he moved to loosen
restrictions on religious worship and expressed
to a party congress a year before the communist
state dissolved that “spiritual rebirth is as
essential to society as oxygen,” according to the Chicago Tribune.

As a result, media agencies had jumped to
conclusions when Gorbachev visited St.
Francis’
tomb last Wednesday and was seen kneeling for
half an hour in silence at the tomb.

But Gorbachev, who was baptized Russian Orthodox
as a child, explained that his visit to the tomb
was as a tourist and not a pilgrim.
He
acknowledged the important role religion plays in
society and said he looks forward to visiting
Orthodox churches in Russia, Catholic and
Protestant churches in the United States and
Europe, synagogues in Israel and mosques in the
Arab world, according to Interfax.

"But all these years, it has never occurred to
anyone to list me among followers of any faith on that basis," Gorbachev noted.

Back in Russia, the Russian Orthodox Church
seemed unimpressed with Gorbachev’s visit to St. Francis’ tomb.

"In Italy, he spoke in emotional terms, rather
than in terms of faith," a spokesman for the
Russian Orthodox patriarch Alexei II told the Russian media.

"He is still on his way to Christianity. If he arrives, we will welcome him.
"

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Well, Sean, at least Mikhail Gorbachev is honest. Perhaps some day he, Ronald Reagan, and Patriarch Alexey II (Ridiger) can discuss these ideological matters in more detail during their coffee breaks in hell. Didn't Ronald and Nancy Reagan used to consult astrological charts before making important decisions?

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Mikhail Gorbachev and Alexis Ridiger still have breath in them. There remains the possibility of repentance. Therefore it is most improper for us to assert the privilege of consigning anyone still alive to hell. Dismas the penitential thief, repented in his waning moments, was baptized by our Saviour, and subsequently joined Christ in Paradise.

Furthermore, we are not God, so who are we to decide the eternal fate of Ronald Reagan? Has the Church spoken as to the fate of Ronald Reagan?

Usurping the prerogatives of Almighty God, and consigning individuals to hell is most irresponsible indeed.

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Lighten up, Kipper. I was speaking in jest. Of course, none of us knows of any man's secret repentance, and of the ultimate judgments of God. Perhaps Ronald Reagan had privately repented for his divorce and neglect of his biological son, his longstanding astrological practices, and his tripling of the deficit to enrich his wealthy Republican supporters at the expense of the American working class. He certainly played the part of the benevolent father figure quite well on American television in any case. I do not doubt that even many sincere Orthodox clergy and faithful bought into the whole charade and voted for him more than once. Perhaps you yourself even helped win one or two elections for the Gipper?

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Saint Anastasius of Sinai :

Even if you see someone sinning, do not judge him for you do not know what the end of his life will be like. The thief, crucified with Christ, entered Paradise and the Apostle Judas went to Hell. Even if you see someone sinning, bear in mind that you do not know his good works. For many have sinned openly and repented in secret; we see their sins, but we do not know their repentance. That is why, brethren, let us not judge anyone so that we will not be judged.

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Amen.

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Perhaps some day he, Ronald Reagan, and Patriarch Alexey II (Ridiger) can discuss these ideological matters in more detail during their coffee breaks in hell.

Comments (or jokes as you call them) like this one are really off putting. In 'real life' I would definately avoid people with such a heavy and macabre attitude to life (or sense of humour as you would probably call it).

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