The Orthodoxy of England before 1066

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Re: Orthodoxy in England!!!

Post by Ebor »

Apologitis wrote:I' ve read that after the Great Schism, the English Church remained ORTHODOX until 1066,

Well, first question: Where did you read this and what was the source?
Next, what do you *mean* by "Orthodox"? Rite? Byzantine? Language?
Before the Great Schism there was the Christian Church in a variety of forms. Rome was one of the patriarchates.

Does anyone know anything more? Are there historical references?

The major Primary Souce for the history of Anglo-Saxon England is "The Anglo Saxon Chronicle". This is available on-line in modern English translations (since it was written in "Old English" which many will find difficult to read.

Example from an entry on 1066 from Manuscript C:
On þisum geare com Harold kyng of Eoforwic to Westmynstre

Modern English:
This year came King Harold from York to Westminster

There are 2 primary sources for the Deathbed Prophecy of St. Edward the Confessor. One from St. Aelred of Rivaux and one that is a Norman-French poem A cited translation from St. Aelred is found here:

About 2/3 down the page is a translation with it's citation of
"Vita beati Edwardi regis et confessoris", from manuscript Selden 55 in Bodleian Library, Oxford.)

The Deathbed Prophecy put out by Mr. Moss lacks any citation that I have seen as to where it came from. There are some major points of difference between his and the one with a known source. Then there is the matter of the error in the dating, to wit: that it would be a "year and a day" between St. Edward's death and the delivery of the kingdom into "into the hands of the enemy".
St. Edward died on the eve of Twelfth Night or January 5th, 1066. William of Normady was crowned King on Christmas Day 1066. That is not a year and a day.

And there was no "Julian/Gregorian Calender" off set at that time. The Gregorian Calendar was implimented in 1582 ... endar.html

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Re: Orthodoxy in England!!!

Post by Benjamin W. C. Waterhouse »

Ebor wrote: And there was no "Julian/Gregorian Calender" off set at that time. The Gregorian Calendar was implimented in 1582


Not in the United Kingdom until 2nd September 1752 leading to riots in the streets for the "stolen" days...


for some good Orthodox England bits and pieces

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