Fr Panagiotis Carras (GOC-K) on the Council of Crete

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Fr Panagiotis Carras (GOC-K) on the Council of Crete

Postby NotChrysostomYet » Sat 14 October 2017 6:02 pm

Recorded at the GOC-K Clergy Synaxis of 2017: https://youtu.be/4MFkaXpDQoE

(So-called "council", of course. Crete was not a council at all.)

Edit: I have one minor complaint. Around the 23:30 mark he says that if you visit any of the New Calendar churches you won't see one candle, vigil light. This is an odd comment because I have never been to an Orthodox parish without some. In my own parish we light hundreds of candles every Sunday.

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Re: Fr Panagiotis Carras (GOC-K) on the Council of Crete

Postby Maria » Sat 14 October 2017 7:25 pm

I think Fr. Panagiotis is referring to the one red vigil lamp that is supposed to be kept burning at the entrance to the Holy Altar. I have seen this red vigil lamp indicating that our Lord is present in the Holy Eucharist in OCA parishes, but I wonder if it is present in the Greek and Antiochian Orthodox Churches.
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Re: Fr Panagiotis Carras (GOC-K) on the Council of Crete

Postby NotChrysostomYet » Sat 14 October 2017 7:36 pm

Maria wrote:I think Fr. Panagiotis is referring to the one red vigil lamp that is supposed to be kept burning at the entrance to the Holy Altar. I have seen this red vigil lamp indicating that our Lord is present in the Holy Eucharist in OCA parishes, but I wonder if it is present in the Greek and Antiochian Orthodox Churches.

At the Altar or at the table of Oblation?

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Re: Fr Panagiotis Carras (GOC-K) on the Council of Crete

Postby Maria » Sat 14 October 2017 8:01 pm

NotChrysostomYet wrote:
Maria wrote:I think Fr. Panagiotis is referring to the one red vigil lamp that is supposed to be kept burning at the entrance to the Holy Altar. I have seen this red vigil lamp indicating that our Lord is present in the Holy Eucharist in OCA parishes, but I wonder if it is present in the Greek and Antiochian Orthodox Churches.

At the Altar or at the table of Oblation?


In the last OCA parish that I attended, there was a red vigil lamp attached to a long chain that could be pulled down, the candle replaced, and then pulled up again. This red vigil lamp was located about two feet above the priest's head at the Entrance to the Great Doors, so that when the priest stood at the Solea on the Altar area, the lamp was directly above him.
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Re: Fr Panagiotis Carras (GOC-K) on the Council of Crete

Postby NotChrysostomYet » Sat 14 October 2017 8:05 pm

Maria wrote:
NotChrysostomYet wrote:
Maria wrote:I think Fr. Panagiotis is referring to the one red vigil lamp that is supposed to be kept burning at the entrance to the Holy Altar. I have seen this red vigil lamp indicating that our Lord is present in the Holy Eucharist in OCA parishes, but I wonder if it is present in the Greek and Antiochian Orthodox Churches.

At the Altar or at the table of Oblation?


In the last OCA parish that I attended, there was a red vigil lamp attached to a long chain that could be pulled down, the candle replaced, and then pulled up again. This red vigil lamp was located about two feet above the priest's head at the Entrance to the Great Doors, so that when the priest stood at the Solea on the Altar area, the lamp was directly above him.

Oh, that one. Yes, we have that - sort of. Unfortunately it's electric. But at least we have it.

We have a real vigil lamp that it placed over the table of oblation, where the gifts are kept.

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Re: Fr Panagiotis Carras (GOC-K) on the Council of Crete

Postby Maria » Sat 14 October 2017 8:18 pm

Is the lamp electric because of the insurance requirements which specify no candles?

The OCA parish I attended was allowed to have that one candle, but immediately after the services, they had to extinguish all candles, only leaving that one red vigil lamp unattended.
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Re: Fr Panagiotis Carras (GOC-K) on the Council of Crete

Postby NotChrysostomYet » Sat 14 October 2017 11:39 pm

Maria wrote:Is the lamp electric because of the insurance requirements which specify no candles?

The OCA parish I attended was allowed to have that one candle, but immediately after the services, they had to extinguish all candles, only leaving that one red vigil lamp unattended.

I can't say for certain, but that would be my guess.

We extinguish all the candles after service as well.


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