Father or Saint Nicholas Planas?

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Re: Father or Saint Nicholas Planas?

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Archimandrit Nilos wrote:

Please, read the follow Link: http://www.roca.org/OA/56/56e.htm. There are proofs against Nicholas Planas, he was a Neo-Calendarist by obedience, a great hypocrite.

Re-read these two paragraphs from the link you have cited:

  • When his secret serving according to the Old Calendar was discovered he was often reprimanded by the higher authorities in the Church. He always appeared when summoned and took his dressing-down without self-justification, disarming his accusers with his childlike simplicity and forthrightness. His intent was to remain true to his conscience; he did not try to build up a following or in any way stir up the faithful over the issue of the Calendar, although he blessed others to follow his example and to work for the formal reinstatement of the Old Calendar. Over and ever he said to everyone, "Whatever has been done uncanonically cannot stand--it will fall."

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     Sadly, the Calendar question was never resolved. The harsh and quite unchristian polemics that have become a hallmark of many in the Greek Old Calendar Movement since then are far removed from the behavior of Papa-Nicholas who is championed as the Movement’s founder. One cannot help but wish that his stirring example of charity had been taken more to heart by those that shared his love for the Traditions of the Church in that otherwise worthy movement.[/list]

    Today, we have the GOC in Greece, and this large movement of True Orthodox Christians in Greece is the result of Father Nicholas Planas who faithfully and secretly followed the Old Calendar despite the "official" church who persecuted him.

    And yes, as the text in the second paragraph plainly states, there are some True Orthodox Christians who are quite judgmental and polemical. These people give a poor witness as they do not reflect Christ's love as did Father Nicholas Planas.

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Re: Father or Saint Nicholas Planas?

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I'm curious about one thing: during the period from 1924 to 1935, when there were no Old Calendar bishops in Greece, priests who continued to celebrate liturgy on the traditional calendar must have done so on antiminsia, but the only antiminsia available must have belonged to New Calendar bishops. In V Moss' history, he claims that Bishop Nikolai of Ohrid provided Old Calendar priests with antiminsia, but Bishop Photios of Marathon has disputed this and claims there is no record of this. If Bishop Photios is right, Old Calendarists must have continued to recognize the New Calendar bishops in some sense, since they celebrated on their antiminsia.

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And the same thing goes for the period from 1955 to 1961 for the Florinites: what antiminsia did they use?

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Also, from what I've heard, former HOCNA members who are now in the GOC continue to venerate St Nicholas Planas and the GOC allows his veneration. At the same time, the GOC issued an reminder to her faithful not to venerate false saints and elders of the New Calendarists, e.g. Elder Paisios, Elder Porphyrios etc. It appears that for St Nicholas, it was enough that he never celebrated on the New Calendar, since it was before the time that the GOC had any bishops of her own.

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jgress wrote:

Also, from what I've heard, former HOCNA members who are now in the GOC continue to venerate St Nicholas Planas and the GOC allows his veneration. At the same time, the GOC issued an reminder to her faithful not to venerate false saints and elders of the New Calendarists, e.g. Elder Paisios, Elder Porphyrios etc. It appears that for St Nicholas, it was enough that he never celebrated on the New Calendar, since it was before the time that the GOC had any bishops of her own.

Quite correct!

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Re: Father or Saint Nicholas Planas?

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Where is my Statement about Nicholaos Planas ?

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Re: Father or Saint Nicholas Planas?

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What do you mean? None of your posts have been moved, if that's what you're asking.

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