Name-Glorifying's Encroachment into Russian Orthodoxy

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Re: Name-Glorifying's Encroachment into Russian Orthodoxy

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denis_ wrote:

I agree with Alexander that would be hard to find some conscious Name-haters in the Russian Church.
What more proofs do you need? Most likely, anyone of the Russian-speaking faithful will tell you the same thing. There aren`t modern conciliar documents condemning of name-worshipping.

All right, I'm locking this thread.

P.S. This thread is now unlocked and has been moved into World Orthodoxy where polemics are allowed. However, Intra-TOC Polemics concerning the GOC-K reunion with the SiR and their sister churches will not be allowed. The only issue that can be discussed in this thread is the encroachment of Name-Worshiping/Name-Glorification into Russian Orthodoxy.

Regarding Name-Worshiping/Name-Glorification and its inroads into various Russian Orthodox churches: this is such an important topic that it should not be ignored by placing it into Miscellaneous or Intra-TOC Polemics where few venture. Not only does this thread deal with the encroachment of Name-Worshiping/Name-Glorification in the ROCOR-MP and the MP, but also any encroachment made into various Russian True Orthodox Churches.

We can no longer ignore the Name-Worshiping/Name-Glorification heresy. We need to rebuke it with all our strength as it has become the "elephant" in the room.

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Rafail and Lurie against "Name-Fighting" heresy

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False Catacomb and false TOC Cult of Raphael Prokofiev-Motovilov and false ROAC and false TOC Cult of Vadim Lurie unite against "heresy of Name-Fighting"....

http://www.portal-credo.ru/site/?act=news&id=107824

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Re: Rafail and Lurie against "Name-Fighting" heresy

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Priest Siluan wrote:

False Catacomb and false TOC Cult of Raphael Prokofiev-Motovilov and false ROAC and false TOC Cult of Vadim Lurie unite against "heresy of Name-Fighting"....

http://www.portal-credo.ru/site/?act=news&id=107824

Am I reading this correctly?

Those who attack the so-called heresy of "Name-Fighting" are actually promoting Name-Glorifiers (aka Name-Worshipers).

Lord have mercy.

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Re: Rafail and Lurie against "Name-Fighting" heresy

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Priest Siluan wrote:

False Catacomb and false TOC Cult of Raphael Prokofiev-Motovilov and false ROAC and false TOC Cult of Vadim Lurie unite against "heresy of Name-Fighting"....

http://www.portal-credo.ru/site/?act=news&id=107824

NOT. ACCEPTABLE.

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Re: Rafail and Lurie against "Name-Fighting" heresy

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Google translation (could someone knowledgeable in Russian please clear up any mistranslations).

  • Church-practical conference devoted to topical issues of the CPI in the modern world, was held May 16-17 in St. John the Baptist convent in the village Denezhnikovo Ramensky District. As the correspondent of "Portal-Credo.Ru", headed by Metropolitan forum CPI (P) Raphael (Motovilov) and Chairman of the Council of Bishops meeting RPATs Bishop Gregory (Lourie). The speakers at the conference were representatives of both Churches.

    In his opening remarks, the Primate of the True Orthodox Church (Synod of Metropolitan Rafail - CPI (P)) Archbishop of Moscow, All-Russia Metropolitan Rafail (Motovilov) spoke about some of the important results of his recent visit to the Metropolitan Synod CPI Greece (Chairman - Metropolitan Angel). During a lively discussion participants made ​​suggestions on ways and means of convergence of various CPI that will be considered at the Local Council of the CPI (P) in July this year.

    Speaking about the current state of True Orthodoxy Russian tradition, Bishop Gregory ( Lourie ) stated that " most of the parishes in the former ROCOR left Russia in quiet depression ." In his opinion , the basis of convergence CPI Russian tradition should not serve their common historical origin of the ROCOR , as previously thought , and consent " as to what in the formal ecumenical Orthodoxy can not save your soul ." The same social conditions inevitably push various Orthodox communities driven towards each other , the speaker said .

    Predsedately Arhiereyskogo soveshtaniya ROAC specify two ryada obstacle kotorыe sushtestvuyut Putin collision in particular ROAC CPI (P). K pervomu otnosyatsya kanonicheskie voprosы, svyazannыe with uchastiem predshestvennikov nыneshney CPI (P) in эkumenizme and polucheniem CPI (P) hirotoniy episkopov of эkumenistov. Co. vtoromu ryadu - voprosы tserkovnoy distsiplinы (in pervuyu ocheredy, participation and even laymen nekotorыh klirikov CPI (P) in bogosluzheniyah ROC MJ and Others Tserkvey "mirovogo Orthodox").

    Archbishop of St. Petersburg and Novgorod Veliko CPI (P) John noticed that his Church "also has a number of issues" to the activities of Bishop Gregory (Lurie), to which he gave detailed answers. Questions focused mainly activities of Bishop Gregory in the early 2000s., Which was the subject of controversy online with a number of former activists RPATs.

    Metropolitan Rafail familiarized the participants with the draft of its report at the forthcoming Local Council of CPI (P), which, in addition to issues of socio-political nature, also addressed the topic of name (presented in the most categorical terms condemned the "heresy imyaborchestva" [Name-fighters]).

    Archbishop of St. Petersburg and Novgorod Veliko CPI (P) John noticed that his Church "also has a number of issues" to the activities of Bishop Gregory (Lurie), to which he gave detailed answers. Questions focused mainly activities of Bishop Gregory in the early 2000s., Which was the subject of controversy online with a number of former activists RPATs.

    Speakers at the conference also made by Alexey Zaytsev (ROAC ) ( " Confession of Faith in the True Orthodox Church "); Abbot Ignatius ( Dushein ) (ROAC ) ( "The Way of the community of the Moscow Patriarchate in True Orthodoxy "); Deputy Chairman of the Missionary Department of the CPI (P) John Abbess , who spoke about his missionary journeys ; Alexander Soldatov (ROAC ) ( " The practice of rites of reception and the origin of the clergy in the modern CPI "); Archbishop CPI ( R ) Vladimir ( Polishchuk ) ( "The monk " ) . The forum participants toured the Holy Trinity Monastery CPI (P) in the village of Ostrovo Nut- Zuevsky Moscow Region.

    Following the conference decided to develop a series of documents that will review the Local Council of the CPI (P).

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Re: Rafail and Lurie against "Name-Fighting" heresy

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Lord have mercy. In all of Russia, is there one church which will stand up against the Name-Glorifiers?
Let us pray that this news story is false.

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Re: Rafail and Lurie against "Name-Fighting" heresy

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The actual ROAC has no tolerance for this. This must be stopped.

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