The Pseudo-Saint Luke of the Crimea

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Re: The Pseudo-Saint Luke of the Crimea

Postby Barbara » Sun 22 January 2017 3:48 am

Rocor-MP is now incorporating a stopoff in Simferopol to 'venerate the relics of st. Luke' in their 2017 summer pilgrimage to holy sites in Russia and Crimea. Led by none other than the Rocor-MP Metropolitan himself, one can imagine that this will be a high point for many of their group after the MP's carefully managed P.R. campaign.

The only good news about that segment of the itinerary is that the pilgrims will seemingly not linger long at the sorry st Luke pseudo-shrine but go on to colorful Bakhchiserai. That destination is a great idea. If any don't care about the rich history, surely they will have heard of Pushkin's famous poem.

Meanwhile, could the promotion of 'st Luke' be aimed at turning Simferopol into a booming tourist and pilgrimage destination, thus raising much money for the region ?

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Re: The Pseudo-Saint Luke of the Crimea

Postby Barbara » Sun 11 June 2017 8:56 pm

Today is the made-up "day" for Abp Luke. SADLY, it coincides with All Saints of Russia this year. MP sources are playing up to the hilt the cult of Luke.

I looked him up and found that the Wildwood CA skete of St Xenia [ near Platina ] has even published an 'akathist' to him. God forbid.

Their introductory remarks on Amazon read :


In response to the numerous prayer requests for those facing surgery, we are pleased to offer this Akathist to St. Luke, the Blessed Surgeon. St. Luke of Simferopol - the renowned surgeon and revered hierarch of the Church - was a true father, shepherd and healer for the faithful through decades of Communist persecution. His grace-filled skill as a surgeon, even in the worst conditions, brought healing to countless people wherever he was--whether in one of the great hospitals or in exile, operating on a wooden table with only a pocket knife. Miracles still abound through the grace of his intercession, and thousands flock to his holy relics."


Whether Archbishop Luke was an excellent surgeon is not the point. The question remains : was he a Saint ? What was his attitude toward the Stalin-founded organization we call today the Moscow Patriarchate ?

I would like to hear more from others who have information about why this cult is "prelest". Meanwhile, I maintain by intuition that this would be highly inadvisable to pray to such a one. Great Healers we have had through the ages. St Panteleimon has worked many miracles on or off the operating table.Image


What is wrong with staying with a known quantity rather than a recently deceased personage about whom we can not know all ?

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Re: The Pseudo-Saint Luke of the Crimea

Postby Barbara » Sun 16 July 2017 9:24 pm

Curious to investigate the purported 'miracles' of Luke of Simferopol, I looked up this topic.

I noticed in nearly all cases, the miracles are never signed by an individual with their full name. Only the initials. While some wish to preserve privacy for understandable reasons, let's compare with the GENUINE Miraculous interventions wrought by St John Maximovitch's holy prayers.

In nearly all cases, Russian emigres [ usually within the ranks of Rocor ] who report miracles of healing - the same basic subject claimed for Abp Luke - furnish their full names. Only rarely when there is something truly embarrassing does the narrator of a story about St John Maximovitch decline to sign his or her name.

This is a bit suspicious to me.

Let's also notice that the stories of Luke appearing suddenly in a hospital room MIRROR those of St John Maximovitch having done the same, both in physical presence and in spirit.

Could the promoters of Luke in Russia have studied the St John miracle stories carefully and copied them with a change of detail and locale ? I certainly believe so. Those stories have been out for decades now. Many Orthodox are easy to fool, since their faith would make them believe without questioning any such story, without critical thinking. Few would analyze "Well didn't I read the same thing 20 years ago in the first collection of anecdotes attesting to St John's clairvoyance and miraculous ability, "St John the Wonderworker" ?" -

Particularly Greeks, with whom as said earlier on this thread, the Russians have been heavily promoting "St Luke the Russian" as the surgeon is often known in Greece apparently, do not in general know or have great fondness [ yet ] for St John Maximovitch.
Hence the inhabitants of Hellas would be easier to fool than Ukrainians or Russians who have heard about St John for quite some years now.

Perhaps in the Greek monasteries, particularly Mt Athos, there would be some awareness of St John. But for all we know, the EP overlords discourage his veneration. Instead, they follow the mainline World Orthodoxy's choice of Luke of Simferopol to cultivate into superstar status.
Where St John was extremely strict and Traditional, Luke is not known for such traits.

Where St John was able to win nearly all hearts by his miracles of help to his Russian flock, oftentimes by healing very serious ailments even when the patient was at death's door, Luke is only known as 'a healer'. This is suspicious right there.

I haven't read all the accounts yet, as they turn me off, frankly. But I don't think Luke was known for his display of clairvoyance. That should be a red flag.

I see Luke as the counterfeit version of St John Maximovitch.

Notice too that 'relics' of Luke have been bestowed on a Greek monastery, Sagmata, near Thebes. The word has spread among the Orthodox in Greece that there is a chapel of Luke there, which houses the supposed relics, a mitre worn by Luke and some personal effects of the Simferopol cleric's. Ill people make pilgrimages there hoping for a cure. Here is the chapel's interior :

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